I know this statcast data is acquired during the high profile events, but did he mention where we can look at that stuff? "They" also have exit velocity and all sorts of other measurables for most of the top prep prospects.
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I know this statcast data is acquired during the high profile events, but did he mention where we can look at that stuff? "They" also have exit velocity and all sorts of other measurables for most of the top prep prospects.
Tapate50
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For those wondering why folks prefer Lewis to Haseley, here are their future grades on all tools from FG (assuming CF):
Category - Lewis vs Haseley
Hit - 60 vs 55
Game 50 vs 40
Raw 55 vs 50
Speed 70 vs 55
Field 55 vs 50
Arm 55 vs 55
Lewis is projected to have far superior tools to Haseley overall, and it isn't particularly close.
Category - Lewis vs Haseley
Hit - 60 vs 55
Game 50 vs 40
Raw 55 vs 50
Speed 70 vs 55
Field 55 vs 50
Arm 55 vs 55
Lewis is projected to have far superior tools to Haseley overall, and it isn't particularly close.
Bingo! The only way the Braves take Haseley is if they're going the cheap route. Greene, Gore, Wright or Lewis should be the pick at 5 if those 4 go before the Braves pick take either Baz/Beck/Adell with the 5th pick
Southcack77
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There are too many teams in this draft who are in better position to pull what the Braves did last year. I don't think Atlanta is likely to land multiple first round talents with that strategy this year.
On the other hand, there is a decent argument that high school players are such a crapshoot that a volume of tools guys is better regardless of the round selected.
Haseley is top 10 on everything I see, Longerhans has him going #7, there's not this huge gap between him and Lewis or Gore. There just isn't.
Sure I get that argument, but you're also taking on a lot more risk with a HS player. Also seems like they are lower on Haseleys defense here, we've seen reports lately that he's looked really good in CF.
I can totally get behind the Lewis pick if people think he's going to be a good OF and hit for some power. No issues.
I think look at Hasley and Lewis as two guys with good hit tools/average power/good defense, and Hasley just feels safer to me.
But if Lewis hits his upside he's obviously going to be a better player because he can also run.
I think I'm getting really down on Adell/Beck and I'm starting to like Baz quite a bit
I think look at Hasley and Lewis as two guys with good hit tools/average power/good defense, and Hasley just feels safer to me.
But if Lewis hits his upside he's obviously going to be a better player because he can also run.
I think I'm getting really down on Adell/Beck and I'm starting to like Baz quite a bit
There is one huge difference is AGE.
He's 21; that's fine.
Still not 17/18 and he'd be starting in probably the same place as the 17/18 y.o.
Not all players develop the way they should, the risk is there for college players too, but it's higher for HS kids. Lewis has higher upside, but also more risk, I don't think there's a wrong answer there, but me personally I want the safer pick.
I don't mind the fact that he's 21, I like that he's a pretty safe bet to be a good hitter and defender.
Part of the nice thing when you pick early is you can find good players that are also relatively safe.
IslandBrave
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Lewis would start in the GCL. I could see Haseley ending up at Rome.
50PoundHead
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Haseley would probably be in Danville for a few weeks and then promoted to Rome. Could conceivably end the season in Florida if he would hit in Rome. At least that's how I see it.
I'd prefer a high school guy (Lewis, Beck, Adell in that order), but if they think a college guy is the better fit, I'm fine with that. I'm also hoping hitter, but a team never has enough pitching.
bravesfanMatt
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My fault, skipped over him the first read through. Haseley is at 6.
I think we just view the 5th pick differently. You seem to be primarily concerned that we don't come out of a top 5 pick with nothing, so you lean toward the safer option. I am primarily concerned that we get big potential, particularly a potentially big bat, because it's really the only way we can add another one in the next 2-3 years. If it misses, it misses, but I want to give ourselves a chance of getting an impact bat.
I look at the Minor pick in 09. Minor, in terms of ability, turned out better than any of us could have hoped. It certainly has to be considered a very good pick. Yet AJ Pollock and Mike Trout went later in that 1st round. Obviously other teams passed on them as well, so it's not like our choice was Minor or Trout. But even though the pick of Minor turned out better than we could have hoped, I still want more potential if I'm picking at that spot. I want to go with the highest upside, assuming there isn't an extreme level of risk.
I want us to go Beck, Adell, or Lewis (I personally prefer Adell, then Beck, then Lewis) with our 1st pick, then I would love to be able to take Drew Waters with our 2nd pick but doubt he'll fall to us. I would also be ok with Tristan Beck if we could sign him, but he'll command more than anybody else at that spot because of how much leverage he has.
Says who? Cumberland was a college draftee but where did he start and end last season? And now Cumberland is still in Rome with Anderson and Wilson and they were all drafted last season. So this doesn't hold true for all prospects.
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