2018 Offseason And Targets

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My guess is that 70% done trade is with the Cubs for one of Zobrist or Happ. They get a young pitcher along the lines of Fried or Touki. If it is for Zobrist, they have to send a bit more to us. If it is for Happ we send an extra piece.
 
nsacpi said:
These three items are of interest to me. We are obviously shopping in the discount aisle for a reliever. I think we might bring back Brach or sign Cody Allen on a one-year deal as a bounce back candidate. Obviously it won't cost much. Mostly it will be a move to improve depth. Most likely it will be a righty since we have Venters, Biddle, Freeman and Minty Hippo from the left side.

With respect to starting pitching, I agree. Unless it is an improvement of the caliber of someone like Kluber or Bauer I'd rather go with what we have in house.
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Holland also still floating around as possibly an even cheaper option than those two.

Wouldn't you have to wonder if Gray even fits the description of "better than Soroka/Touki/Fried" - especially given the single year of control?


If it's going to be a bargain bin RP and the trade is down to the "throw-ins", doesn't it feel like the trade has to be Peralta or Realmuto? If he could grab one of the RPs for less than $5 million, $6 million for Realmuto and ~$10 million for Marwin would at least seem to be in the range of "doable" money-wise. That or stay with the current Catchers, add Peralta, and possibly TWO of the RPs?

Another interesting question for me is what Mychal Givens would cost - could be a pretty big impact trade without top-tier prospects involved.
 
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Holland also still floating around as possibly an even cheaper option than those two.

Wouldn't you have to wonder if Gray even fits the description of "better than Soroka/Touki/Fried" - especially given the single year of control?


If it's going to be a bargain bin RP and the trade is down to the "throw-ins", doesn't it feel like the trade has to be Peralta or Realmuto? If he could grab one of the RPs for less than $5 million, $6 million for Realmuto and ~$10 million for Marwin would at least seem to be in the range of "doable" money-wise. That or stay with the current Catchers, add Peralta, and possibly TWO of the RPs?

Another interesting question for me is what Mychal Givens would cost - could be a pretty big impact trade without top-tier prospects involved.
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How did you arrive at it has to be Peralta or Realmuto?
 
bravesfanMatt said:
Ok. Makes sense. Not sure Greg is much of an upgrade in our pen.
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Given AA's statement about not being interested in committing much to a pen salary, he's one of the few guys left with closing experience - only fits as a bargain bin guy - figure Allen and O'Day are likely to be more expensive.
 
Southcack77 said:
How did you arrive at it has to be Peralta or Realmuto?
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Haniger just doesn't fit as a realistic add - especially if you're not going to overpay.

Gray doesn't really fit as an upgrade over Soroka/Touki/Fried, and if Cashman's angling for a Newk/Fried/Gohara type of return he'd need to include Frazier - would seem to be awfully complicated to come to something both sides would consider "fair", although that could be what's taking so long.

Peralta and Realmuto fit money-wise, but the throw-ins get more complicated depending on whether he's trying to add other pieces. Those two would make the most sense as guys he'd target alone by themselves in a 2/1 or 3/1 type deal. Peralta and Greinke would become incredibly complicated, and deciding on a fair return for Steckenrider would be a challenge since you know they'd be asking for a pretty nice piece to be included for him.
 
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Super said:
anyway, the freeman trade debate is stale. i think it had a higher chance of working out poorly than breaking even or being a clear win. that's all i'm saying. to act like it was a no-brainer to deal him and pretending to be sure that the return would make it worth it is naive.
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I totally agree, especially based on the rest of Coppy's body of work.
 
Tidbit from Rosenthal today in The Athletic:

It​ was​ more​ than​ a year ago that​ baseball penalized​ the Braves​ for infractions​ in​ the international market​ and​ domestic draft.​​ The Braves now operate under a new front office, but in a sense, they are still paying the price.
Case in point: The team’s reluctance to sign a free agent who would require the loss of a compensation pick.

Outfielder A.J. Pollock, in particular, is of interest to the Braves, and the team likely would jump on him at a dollar figure it deemed acceptable. But the pick – which for the Braves would be their third overall choice, likely in the mid-60s – would be part of the acquisition cost. And the Braves, because of all the young players the penalties cost them and all those they will lose in the future, value the selection more than most clubs, even though they have two first rounders this year.

Baseball stripped the Braves of their third-round pick in 2018 as well as 13 international signees, including infielder Kevin Maitan, who went on to join the Angels as a free agent and become their seventh-ranked prospect, according to MLBPipeline.com. In addition, the Braves cannot sign a player in the 2019-20 class for more than $10,000 and will have their 2020-21 budget reduced by 50 percent.

Which is not to say the Braves are out on Pollock, who would replace free agent Nick Markakis, joining former Diamondbacks teammate Ender Inciarte and National League Rookie of the Year Ronald Acuña in the Atlanta outfield. Other teams, though, might be more willing to sacrifice the pick.
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AA says he has a trade 70% completed, working on filler guys. Is it JTR?
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I don’t think so.
 
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