Julio3000
<B>A Chip Off the Old Rock</B>
You literally said it was a weird patent law.
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You literally said it was a weird patent law.
Julio3000
<B>A Chip Off the Old Rock</B>
We should probably talk about how private drug development piggybacks on public investment through the NIH. So that US innovation that you’re touting is underwritten at the start by public funds.
I don’t think you’re 100% wrong, but you’re basically just posting Pharma press releases.
I don’t think you’re 100% wrong, but you’re basically just posting Pharma press releases.
cajunrevenge
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Or for that matter that Trump goes nuclear If you disagree with him. Only naive people think there wouldn't have been retaliation against Ukraine if their President said he would not help smear Biden.
If I was the Democrats I would so 3 days of examples of Trump retaliating or exploding on people that didnt kiss his ass and give what he wants. Then go over the call again. That should make it very clear what was going on.
Runnin
Well-known member
AG Barr is flying all over the world trying to find some country to give Trump something to discredit the Russia investigation. Wow!
And WHY?????
Because Trump can't let go of the fantasy of a perceived wrong, even though he should've felt lucky that Russia was behind him.
And WHY?????
Because Trump can't let go of the fantasy of a perceived wrong, even though he should've felt lucky that Russia was behind him.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
What major medical cure has come through recently? Jonas Salk found the cure for polio from a grant from the March of Dimes and funding from University of Pittsburgh. He wasn't a big pharma scientist.
There is more than one way to skin a cat. The current method seems long and cruel.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
Yup. I don't think profits drive research. Profits drive revision.
Every european nation knows whats at stake since trumps message for 4 years has been other nations have to pay for defense. In addition, Ukraine was not aware of any plans until a month after the call. So unless your argument is thatt they assumed it was likely well then ill just say that gives grounds to call any negotiation with any foreiflgn leader illegal.
We should definitely use an example from 70 years ago for todays world.
All advanced research is done via the incrntive model. Do you guys think these scientists work for free?
57Brave
Well-known member
I just spent 15 years on staff at a biological research university that housed over 50 PI's and 100's of grad student and assistants. In the fields of genetics,ecology,virology,botany,animal research etc etc etc.
I will point to two current PI's - retired that continue to operate labs in Emeritus status. Meaning on their own time and investing their own money
Grad students that work 18 hour days then volunteer on weekends teaching science workshops to underprivileged children.
World renown scientists and researchers
my anecdotal experience taught me passion being more the motivator,
those that saw money and profit their motivation washed out young in their careers
I will point to two current PI's - retired that continue to operate labs in Emeritus status. Meaning on their own time and investing their own money
Grad students that work 18 hour days then volunteer on weekends teaching science workshops to underprivileged children.
World renown scientists and researchers
my anecdotal experience taught me passion being more the motivator,
those that saw money and profit their motivation washed out young in their careers
I wonder who funds these grants. How those individuals made money? Surely, there was no profit paradigm in those situations.
Profit fuels all innovation and development.
The more government taking others money the worse a situation gets.
sturg33
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I said that as a very very simplified explanation for a weird drug that is pretty unique when it comes to the patent situation
sturg33
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Gilead cured Hep C in 2014 and has essentially made HIV undetectable (not cured but pretty much a non issue).
sturg33
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Yeah see this is an awful, awful take
57Brave
Well-known member
One of thr principle resrarchers was from our university.
Same one was at the forefront of the Seka Virus cure a few years back.
In that state salaries of public employees are made public.
His under $100K
Justifying high costs because it supposedly costs exponentially more to make a drug.
Marketing and administration costs represent 5-6 times (or more) the R&D costs itself.
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Yes, monopolies never take advantage of their consumers....
Do we need a history lesson?
Do you ubderstand how large and diverse of a pool administrative costs are? This should not be a surprise.
Yes, if not 100% perfect then bad.
Generic versions are not expensive to produce. The issue is getting around the patent laws. Big Pharma sues anyone that tries to get into the generic game. The financial and time costs this causes basically keeps all competitors from entering the market.