Does Frank Wren now jump into the trade market?

Some of the numbers coming out: Freeman files at 5.75M, Braves at 4.5M. I predict the Braves win this one.

Beat me too it. Was about to post the same thing. I don't understand how the Braves being a 'file and trial' team is beneficial to them. What harm is there in trying to work out a deal before a hearing? A hearing does no one any good IMO. It can just create hard feelings.
 
Some of the numbers coming out: Freeman files at 5.75M, Braves at 4.5M. I predict the Braves win this one.

A win by the Braves could be looked at as a loss. That is a pretty wide gap for a first year guy and we havent even got to Kimbrel yet.
 
Waiting for Kimbrel's number but what is indicated to me by the 3 in question is that they are not interested in extensions.
 
I heard one that the previous 3 years combined is what arbitrators look at when making a decision. Freeman's last 3 seasons combined are .287/.361/.468 with 67 homeruns and 279 rbis. Let's remember that most arbitrators aren't into advanced stats so they still look at old school stats like homeruns, rbis, wins and saves when deciding these things. I think the thing that hurts Freeman and Kimbrel to a lessar extent is that he's only a 1st year arb guy and he's never won an award yet but does have that 5th place MVP finish to brag about. It wouldn't surprise me if he won but I think the Braves win that one. I think the Braves win on Heyward and Kimbrel too. Heyward's lack of consistency and missed time will hurt him. Kimbrel gets hurt by being a 1st year arb guy.
 
Would be horrible if that happened.

Johnson will be traded, I'll almost bet on that. Medlen is likely to be traded depending on prospect development.

Honestly assuming we get a boost to payroll that we should. We may keep most of our team in tact. Would be great if we could keep Medlen and Johnson, don't see anyone immediately ready to step in for them. We absolutely have no one who can step in for Jason or Kimbrel.

You have no clue who the braves might be able to get in a trade. This team had a 2 year window and we are at the beginning of year 2. The braves are never going to be able to keep Kimbrel and Heyward. A trade next offseason is a MUST IMO. It will be a hell of alot better then letting them walk for a pick in the top 30 of the draft IMO.
 
You have no clue who the braves might be able to get in a trade. This team had a 2 year window and we are at the beginning of year 2. The braves are never going to be able to keep Kimbrel and Heyward. A trade next offseason is a MUST IMO. It will be a hell of alot better then letting them walk for a pick in the top 30 of the draft IMO.

I think the window probably extends to the 2015 season.
 
I agree with skid. No way I let em play out and get a pick. Our first round picks are sketchy a lot of times so i'd rather not roll the dice. It seems like they don't wanna be here long term so next offseason I'd trade Heyward and CK and offer Simmons, JUp, Minor, and Freeman their money.
 
I think Kimbrel want out.

Why do you say this? Because he asked for 9 million? Why wouldn't he ask for that? He is the best closer in baseball.

My guess everyone one of them would sign an ext. if the braves offered them above market value.

They are being baseball players that is all. Problem is we don't have owners that want baseball players.
 
Best closer in baseball making 5 mil less than Soriano? Pretty good deal.

Relative to Soriano or Papelbon sure. Relative to our budget and the gaping holes in our lineup I'm less sure, but I guess it would be ok in abstract. Given that it's the first year of arbitration, it seems pretty high.
 
Relative to Soriano or Papelbon sure. Relative to our budget and the gaping holes in our lineup I'm less sure, but I guess it would be ok in abstract. Given that it's the first year of arbitration, it seems pretty high.

It is high, but I could see him winning that case.
 
We're the new Rays or Twins. Better at developing than anyone else, only forced to move or loss that talent to have their best years in another uniform.

BLAH!

I mean this is the equivalent of trading Glavine and Smoltz in 1993 only to watch them dominant in another uniform and wonder what could have been.

We finally got that dominant closer that we never had in the 90s that cost us at least one if not 2 championships. We finally got an MVP caliber 1B, first since the crime dog, and one if the best all around OFers.
 
This is where it helps to ahve money. It doesnt pay to go arbitration. Those discussion aren't pretty.
 
Do the Braves ever utilize outside consultants in arbitration hearings? I have someone in mind for a particular outfielder's case, and I believe he might have some damning testimony related to matters of the heart.
 
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