Minor league thread

Tapate50 said:
Vines had a helluva start at AA. Struck out 7 straight at one point
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Vines has serious Bryce Elder vibes to me. Four pitches average to plus pitches, 92-94 with sink, simple and repeatable delivery, good athlete. I think Vines will face a similar adjustment to what Elder is facing as he gets higher- they are both guys who should be groundball pitchers but who have had a lot of success striking guys out in the minors. It cost Elder when he got to the big leagues because he was trying to nibble and strike guys out instead of just being the groundball pitcher that he should be- he ended up walking a ton of batters and paying for it. I'd love to see one of those two (or both if I'm being greedy) turn into a dependable innings eater who can lock down the back of the rotation cheaply for a few years.
 
Hulavol said:
Harris at .319 with .398 and 10 SB……

Seems like time for a promotion …
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Give him until the middle of the month to prove he’s got it figured out, then promote him. The give him a month to 1-1/2 months to see how he handles AAA. If he’s killing AAA, that would put him at a promotion at the end of June/beginning of July. That gives you a month to see if he’s the answer in the OF.
 
CyYoung31 said:
Give him until the middle of the month to prove he’s got it figured out, then promote him. The give him a month to 1-1/2 months to see how he handles AAA. If he’s killing AAA, that would put him at a promotion at the end of June/beginning of July. That gives you a month to see if he’s the answer in the OF.
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Do you think he gets promoted before Waters gets a shot?
 
Hulavol said:
Harris at .319 with .398 and 10 SB……

Seems like time for a promotion …
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Still seems like a small sample to me.

I think the scouting matters a lot here. Is he getting buoyed up by bad defense, bloop hits, etc? The exit velocities, etc matter. Is he facing top stuff or not?

Has he gotten to hit anyone that has a great slider?

I still think he does not have enough professional at bats to bring up. But going back to scouting, if they don't think it will damage his development and are willing to start his clock, it would not take much to upgrade LF.
 
McCann'sCans said:
Vines has serious Bryce Elder vibes to me. Four pitches average to plus pitches, 92-94 with sink, simple and repeatable delivery, good athlete. I think Vines will face a similar adjustment to what Elder is facing as he gets higher- they are both guys who should be groundball pitchers but who have had a lot of success striking guys out in the minors. It cost Elder when he got to the big leagues because he was trying to nibble and strike guys out instead of just being the groundball pitcher that he should be- he ended up walking a ton of batters and paying for it. I'd love to see one of those two (or both if I'm being greedy) turn into a dependable innings eater who can lock down the back of the rotation cheaply for a few years.
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I don't know, so correct me if I'm wrong.

I thought Vines was thought of having a little more stuff, but still a change up first guy. I think Vines is thought of to have more command and control.

But I would agree that the most likely positive outcome is a good 5th starter like Elder. He's not someone we should expect to go deep or keep the score book clean.
 
Russ2dollas said:
Still seems like a small sample to me.

I think the scouting matters a lot here. Is he getting buoyed up by bad defense, bloop hits, etc? The exit velocities, etc matter. Is he facing top stuff or not?

Has he gotten to hit anyone that has a great slider?

I still think he does not have enough professional at bats to bring up. But going back to scouting, if they don't think it will damage his development and are willing to start his clock, it would not take much to upgrade LF.
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Think he was insinuating a promotion to AAA not MLB… the one glaring thing on Harris this year is his struggles against lefties. He’s been pretty awful against them.
 
Russ2dollas said:
Still seems like a small sample to me.

I think the scouting matters a lot here. Is he getting buoyed up by bad defense, bloop hits, etc? The exit velocities, etc matter. Is he facing top stuff or not?

Has he gotten to hit anyone that has a great slider?

I still think he does not have enough professional at bats to bring up. But going back to scouting, if they don't think it will damage his development and are willing to start his clock, it would not take much to upgrade LF.
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Some context can be gathered by watching the highlights. For example, grounders pulled for base hits when the infield wasn’t shifted, or fly balls for doubles that MLB outfielders positioned correctly would have caught.

Ultimately, if Harris is producing enough quality contact and demonstrating acceptable swing decisions, I see no reason not to promote him. That data is readily available to the org, and the only guy they have gotten wrong during a promotion that I can remember is Pache.
 
I'll be very surprised if waters isn't promoted first. He's on the 40-man roster for one reason. Still a tiny sample, but k numbers are down after being down last year from the season before.
 
Yeah Vodnik has been nasty so far this year. So Shewmake looks comfortable with his new swing. If he keeps it up he could be up soon as our main bench piece.
 
Hudson2 said:
Yeah Vodnik has been nasty so far this year. So Shewmake looks comfortable with his new swing. If he keeps it up he could be up soon as our main bench piece.
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We didn't have a lhh to ph against a side arm rhp just now, so we certainly could use a lh bench bat
 
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