Spring Training Gamethread/Discussion

[rico43]

Is any one of Kyle Davies, Chuck James, Buddy Carlyle, Jorge Campillo available?

You laugh, but Carlyle is in the Mets' minor league camp...

Kyle Davies is in the Indians' minor league camp...

 

[stpeteirish]

Breaking down THURSDAY box. Losing 7-0 (ugh) to McCann's Yankees.

Hale fails to make it out of the fifth, allowing three runs (earned) in 4.1 innings.

Avilan cleaned up his mess and has still not allowed a run this spring.

Jaime pitched himself out of the mix with four walks in 1/3 inning. Two runs scored, but Ryne Harper came on and struck out two to close out the inning.

Another shutout inning for Kimbrel, another shaky outing for Vazquez.

Schafer, JUp and Doumit had doubles, but no one had two hits. Simmons and La Stella had errors, La Stella booting his only chance

Uggla 0-3, K

Underreported story this spring: failure of prospects to nail down last 2 (3 while we go with 4 starters) bullpen jobs. Vazquez and Jaime yesterday. We need to scan the waiver wire with a liitle more interest than usual this year. I don't think someone who has not pitched in the big leagues should break camp with the big club unless he has a good spring. Our "big four" RP's have, but has anyone else?

 

[50PoundHead]

Underreported story this spring: failure of prospects to nail down last 2 (3 while we go with 4 starters) bullpen jobs. Vazquez and Jaime yesterday. We need to scan the waiver wire with a liitle more interest than usual this year. I don't think someone who has not pitched in the big leagues should break camp with the big club unless he has a good spring. Our "big four" RP's have, but has anyone else?

You can't go by just the games, but I agree. Of all the guys that could step up, none really have.

 

[rico43]

You can't go by just the games, but I agree. Of all the guys that could step up, none really have.

Keep in mind that Vazquez started two weeks behind everybody else because of a minor injury. I feel like he's being graded on a curve right now and could benefit from a strong finish

 

[nsacpi]

Buchter has been pretty good after some rough early outings. In his last four games, one inning each, he has given up 1 hit, 1 walk, 1 HBP and struck out 6.

Thomas has pitched well too. His overall numbers: 6.1 innings, 5 hits, 4 walks, 11 strikeouts. The walks are high, but his performance last year does not indicate he has control problems. The strikeouts per innings numbers are impressive.

 

[Tapate50]

Buchter has been pretty good after some rough early outings. In his last four games, one inning each, he has given up 1 hit, 1 walk, 1 HBP and struck out 6.

Thomas has pitched well too. His overall numbers: 6.1 innings, 5 hits, 4 walks, 11 strikeouts. The walks are high, but his performance last year does not indicate he has control problems. The strikeouts per innings numbers are impressive.

I agree.

Braves optioned RHP Luis Vasquez, C Christian Bethancourt, OF Todd Cunningham, and RHP Juan Jaime to Triple-A Gwinnett.

Vasquez has been slowed in Braves camp by a lat injury that he suffered in the Dominican Winter League. He should get a look in Atlanta eventually. None of the other cuts made Thursday by the Braves were a surprise.

 

[AUTiger7222]

If that's how you want to take it, fine... but again, way to actually address the substance of the post because you're upset your comparison was terrible. Please enlighten me... what about his college and minor league career makes you think he's going to be a very good MLB pitcher? Or are you just going to keep going with the argument that anyone can succeed, regardless of their minor league career?

MLB history is full of guys that were great in the minors but had terrible MLB careers. But on the other hand MLB history is full of guys that had average minor league careers but had good MLB careers. It's IMPOSSIBLE to determine a guy's MLB career by looking at his minor league career. FACT!

 

[AUTiger7222]

Underreported story this spring: failure of prospects to nail down last 2 (3 while we go with 4 starters) bullpen jobs. Vazquez and Jaime yesterday. We need to scan the waiver wire with a liitle more interest than usual this year. I don't think someone who has not pitched in the big leagues should break camp with the big club unless he has a good spring. Our "big four" RP's have, but has anyone else?

Bullpen was the area I was most worried about coming into the season because we had so many unproven guys down there. One of the reasons I wish the Braves had taken a flyer on seeing if Andrew Bailey was healthy.

 

[zitothebrave]

MLB history is full of guys that were great in the minors but had terrible MLB careers. But on the other hand MLB history is full of guys that had average minor league careers but had good MLB careers. It's IMPOSSIBLE to determine a guy's MLB career by looking at his minor league career. FACT!

MLB is less full of guys who were average in the minors than great in the minors.

It requires some context (age, service time, etc.) but you're gonna find that success in the minors translates much better than mediocrity.

And it's not impossible. It's hard to do.

 

[Krovahn]

BJ put a good swing on that ball up the middle. Good to see.

 

[thethe]

BJ has had a really solid spring. If this guy can just hit his career norms the offense is going to be awesome this year.

 

[zbhargrove]

MLB history is full of guys that were great in the minors but had terrible MLB careers. But on the other hand MLB history is full of guys that had average minor league careers but had good MLB careers. It's IMPOSSIBLE to determine a guy's MLB career by looking at his minor league career. FACT!

Lol so basically you're just going with blind hope and nothing to back it up. Good to know.

 

[bravesnumberone]

BJ has had a really solid spring. If this guy can just hit his career norms the offense is going to be awesome this year.

With the pitching uncertainty, the offense has no other choice. He and Uggla both HAVE to produce.

 

[thethe]

I like our top 4 still. I think they will all have excellent years.

 

[AUTiger7222]

Lol so basically you're just going with blind hope and nothing to back it up. Good to know.

Blind hope is all the **** we have unless you know something I don't about who's available for the Braves to throw on the mound to start games. I don't know if you noticed the injuries to Medlen, Beachy and Minor or not or the fact that our opening day rotation will feature Teheran, Wood, Garcia and Hale. So it's better to hope he does well then to go in expecting all the ****ing worse case situations possible happening. It's called being optimistic. Damn the negativity on this board is ****ing stupid!

 

[Heyward]

Uh-huh.

So you saw all 3 of Beachy/Medlen/Minor getting hurt BEFORE the season.

If so, i got some retail in Reno i'd like to sell you.

Not even a team like the Yanks or Dodgers would survive that, its a freak thing.

 

[AUTiger7222]

BJ put a good swing on that ball up the middle. Good to see.

I just went back and watched it and it was a nice swing and he got hosed on that call at 2nd. He had his foot on the bag before the tag on his ass.

 

[thewupk]

BJ has had a really solid spring. If this guy can just hit his career norms the offense is going to be awesome this year.

Both BJ and Uggla have had good springs thus far. Not that it means much but it's better to see something positive instead of more sucking. If we get anything out of them this year we are going to score lots of runs again.

 

[thewupk]

I just went back and watched it and it was a nice swing and he got hosed on that call at 2nd. He had his foot on the bag before the tag on his ass.

Isn't that something that can be reviewed now?

 

[AUTiger7222]

Isn't that something that can be reviewed now?

Yes it can be. But I wonder how often we will see Fredi challenge calls? I'm guessing very, very seldom considering how little he comes out to argue calls.