Official Around Baseball 2023 Thread

striker42 said:
Contreras is the one that has the best chance to be special. He has the 4th highest WAR among catchers with at least 150 PAs this year. He could easily end up a 4 WAR catcher this year.

Of course Murphy leads all catchers on WAR so it's not like the trade isn't working out for us.
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Langeliers and all the pitchers all have a chance to be special. The talent is obvious with Langeliers and of course pitchers are lottery tickets. Also, Malloy is hitting well in AAA, albeit with a high K rate.
 
Carp said:
But we've really only made 2 significant trades under AA: Olson and Murphy. All of the other trades have been for relievers, spare parts, or salary dumps.

Also, Contreras isn't anything special? I would be to differ.
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Well Contreras was special when he was here. His hitting has clearly regressed from last year though.
 
Last year Judge had 29 homers going into July. Ohtani has 29 HR right now. Would be wild as hell if Ohtani just casually breaks the AL HR record.
 
NYCBrave said:
Well Contreras was special when he was here. His hitting has clearly regressed from last year though.
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I would not say he has regressed. True that his main batting line is down but he's striking out less and walking more, while having a slightly higher EV. The big difference is BABIP (luck). He was at .344 last year and he's at .289 this year, which accounts for most of the difference in offense.
 
Carp said:
I would not say he has regressed. True that his main batting line is down but he's striking out less and walking more, while having a slightly higher EV. The big difference is BABIP (luck). He was at .344 last year and he's at .289 this year, which accounts for most of the difference in offense.
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Which is what most people assumed would happen. Last year he had a 370 WOBA vs 347 xWOBA. This year it's 333 WOBA vs 337 xWOBA.
 
Carp said:
I would not say he has regressed. True that his main batting line is down but he's striking out less and walking more, while having a slightly higher EV. The big difference is BABIP (luck). He was at .344 last year and he's at .289 this year, which accounts for most of the difference in offense.
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But his ISO is also way down. I haven't dug into why his power numbers are down across the board, but that's a significant drop as well.
 
NYCBrave said:
Was just looking back at the trade history for the Braves under AA. So far there has really been nobody he's traded that has developed into anything special. Really gives validation to the fact that the organization really knows how to identify talent. I wonder if this type of track record makes other teams nervous about trading with the Braves.

https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/transactions/atlanta-braves/trade/
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Braves rarely have ever traded away anything significant, but I think most teams are probably that way overall. Except maybe the biggest money teams.
 
Southcack77 said:
Braves rarely have ever traded away anything significant, but I think most teams are probably that way overall. Except maybe the biggest money teams.
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Texiara deal?
Smoltz from Detroit?
Most met trades?
Max fried for Justin upton?


People give up significant future pieces all the time.
 
That was extremely ballsy by Suspenders to have faith that Drew would not only be healthy for a full 162, but that he'd even produce good numbers.

Teenage me was still too young enough to comprehend how anyone could say Drew had as good of a season as Sheffield 2003.

Adult me is still mindblown that Drew had an 8.6 fWAR to Sheff's 7.6 fWAR in 2003. And still doesn't appreciate how good Drew really was that year.

JS obviously had zero clue about analytics back in 2003-2004. So he probably thought JD just had a really good year. 30 homers and .300 avg. 100rbi.
 
The Chosen One said:
That was extremely ballsy by Suspenders to have faith that Drew would not only be healthy for a full 162, but that he'd even produce good numbers.

Teenage me was still too young enough to comprehend how anyone could say Drew had as good of a season as Sheffield 2003.

Adult me is still mindblown that Drew had an 8.6 fWAR to Sheff's 7.6 fWAR in 2003. And still doesn't appreciate how good Drew really was that year.

JS obviously had zero clue about analytics back in 2003-2004. So he probably thought JD just had a really good year. 30 homers and .300 avg. 100rbi.
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He was such an interesting player. Obviously a great talent and really intelligent hitter, but folks around him seemed to think he was quick to take himself out for minor injuries. I think he just simply did not like playing. And there is truly nothing wrong with that. It is what it is.
 
weso1 said:
He was such an interesting player. Obviously a great talent and really intelligent hitter, but folks around him seemed to think he was quick to take himself out for minor injuries. I think he just simply did not like playing. And there is truly nothing wrong with that. It is what it is.
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Interesting thinking of how his career would have turned out had the economics of baseball not stunk during those mid 2000s years and he had stayed with us.

Did he play lights out for for the contract year in 2004. Or did playing for his home team make him enjoy playing a bit more than in stl or Philly.

Going from one baseball town like STL to ATL then another hardcore baseball fanbase in BOS.

I feel he played well with us because there was never any pressure for him to be a superstar for us. In Boston he signed that contract then had to deal with nit living up to that fanbase's expectations even though he basically was a moneyball darling at that point.
 
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