2023 Misc Braves Talk

The Washington Nationals are closer to a wild card spot than the Phillies are to us.

The Tigers are only half a game farther from a wild card spot than the Phils are from us.
 
bravesfanMatt said:
I would think Chavez takes Collins spot. I still can't believe we haven't gotten one update on him. It had to be broken with him being out this long.
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Braves website is saying they're probably just gonna wait till September 1 to activate Chavez and Lee to since they're both on the 60 day.

Also it looks like Wright wouldn't be back till the very end of the year at the earliest since there's no plans to use him in relief
 
Slippyjms said:
Braves website is saying they're probably just gonna wait till September 1 to activate Chavez and Lee to since they're both on the 60 day.

Also it looks like Wright wouldn't be back till the very end of the year at the earliest since there's no plans to use him in relief
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It makes sense on Chavez and Lee so we don't have to demote anyone. Not like it really matters ar this point anyway. Rest of the season is on auto pilot.
 
After sporting a K rate near 30% for much of the first half of the season, Matt Olson's K rate currently sits at 24.7%. He also has a higher OPS and bWAR than Freeman.
 
Carp said:
After sporting a K rate near 30% for much of the first half of the season, Matt Olson's K rate currently sits at 24.7%. He also has a higher OPS and bWAR than Freeman.
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It was a joke a few weeks ago. But he may very well take the silver slugger for 1B this year
 
I saw some guys talking about taking Olson to win the MVP over the summer and some getting +4000 aon one guy who jumped in first week of June get him at +10000.. that has to look more interesting than ever right about now. I can still get him at +1925
 
bravesfanMatt said:
thanks,

I just looked and there will still have to be a roste move on the 1st. They can only bring up 1 pitcher.. so Lee and Chavez both can't come up unless one other pitcher is cut or sent down.
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Seems pretty likely that someone with options is sent down. I assume that is McHugh, but I don't know.
 
Carp said:
Seems pretty likely that someone with options is sent down. I assume that is McHugh, but I don't know.
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was it here that someone said Cheerios had an option left. IDK.. AA likes to keep as many guys around as he can though.. so I doubt they straight DFA anyone at this point. IL stint maybe.. if he can't option anyone. Mort might want a 15 day vacation in September.
 
bravesfanMatt said:
I saw some guys talking about taking Olson to win the MVP over the summer and some getting +4000 aon one guy who jumped in first week of June get him at +10000.. that has to look more interesting than ever right about now. I can still get him at +1925
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Betts, Freeman, Olson and Acuna could win the MVP with a hot streak down the stretch. I still think Acuna ultimately wins it comfortably because he’s going to pull in the traditional voters (SB/HR, batting average, outfield assists) and the analytics voters (xWOBA, WPA). Olson and Freeman are competing against each other from the same pool of voters, so if they have similar OPS they’ll split that vote. I don’t see how someone could vote for Betts over Acuna unless the Dodgers finish with the best record and voters start crediting Mookie for his positional versatility.

Olson could finish with 60 homers and 140 RBI and finish second in MVP on his own team. Crazy
 
chop2chip said:
Betts, Freeman, Olson and Acuna could win the MVP with a hot streak down the stretch. I still think Acuna ultimately wins it comfortably because he’s going to pull in the traditional voters (SB/HR, batting average, outfield assists) and the analytics voters (xWOBA, WPA). Olson and Freeman are competing against each other from the same pool of voters, so if they have similar OPS they’ll split that vote. I don’t see how someone could vote for Betts over Acuna unless the Dodgers finish with the best record and voters start crediting Mookie for his positional versatility.

Olson could finish with 60 homers and 140 RBI and finish second in MVP on his own team. Crazy
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Acuna is still by far the betting favorite.. -700.. FF is next... I think he was getting +600 maybe +700.. then Matt is a distant 3rd.. Mookie was close to +3000 so I think vegas doesn't like his odds as much. I agree any one of those guys could get hot, but I also think it would take a cold streak from Acuna in conjunction.
 
bravesfanMatt said:
was it here that someone said Cheerios had an option left. IDK.. AA likes to keep as many guys around as he can though.. so I doubt they straight DFA anyone at this point. IL stint maybe.. if he can't option anyone. Mort might want a 15 day vacation in September.
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Can't really afford to lose a SP unless we replace him with a SP. Chirinos will continue to get starts so he can eat innings. That is his only purpose. Honestly, I'd rather Winnan get that role. He's earned it and also has spent time out of the pen in AAA, so he could be a perfect long arm in the pen for the playoffs.
 
How about some Ozuna love.. I know we were all hard on him to start the year and rightfully so probably.. but now that I think he has his personal problems behind him, he has been such a valuable piece to our team. Dude has a .320 OBP and a ~25% K rate xwOBA of .367... Those are incredible when you think he was hitting something like .100 in May. I think if it came to TDA and Ozuna as DH in playoffs, I am going Ozuna...

Ozuna has been worth ~1 war which is also pretty good for a DH only player..
 
chop2chip said:
Betts, Freeman, Olson and Acuna could win the MVP with a hot streak down the stretch. I still think Acuna ultimately wins it comfortably because he’s going to pull in the traditional voters (SB/HR, batting average, outfield assists) and the analytics voters (xWOBA, WPA). Olson and Freeman are competing against each other from the same pool of voters, so if they have similar OPS they’ll split that vote. I don’t see how someone could vote for Betts over Acuna unless the Dodgers finish with the best record and voters start crediting Mookie for his positional versatility.

Olson could finish with 60 homers and 140 RBI and finish second in MVP on his own team. Crazy
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Acuna has been the favorite all season, which helps his chances more than anything. He's also having a historic season that should easily see him become the only player in history to achieve a 30/60 season. Granted, many baseball purists will discount that with the larger bases, but it's still an amazing feat. If he reaches 40/60, there is zero chance he doesn't win the MVP.

Only way I could see anyone pushing Acuna off the top spot for MVP is if they have a historic season. The only player capable of doing that currently is Olson, but even at 60+ homers it wouldn't really be breaking any records.
 
Carp said:
Acuna has been the favorite all season, which helps his chances more than anything. He's also having a historic season that should easily see him become the only player in history to achieve a 30/60 season. Granted, many baseball purists will discount that with the larger bases, but it's still an amazing feat. If he reaches 40/60, there is zero chance he doesn't win the MVP.

Only way I could see anyone pushing Acuna off the top spot for MVP is if they have a historic season. The only player capable of doing that currently is Olson, but even at 60+ homers it wouldn't really be breaking any records.
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Like Matt said, Acuna would have to go cold not to win at this point. Fangraphs WAR uses OOA + UZR Arm instead of fielding run values from statcast, so his lead in WAR is probably understated since UZR isn’t as sophisticated at measuring how many advances RAJ prevents.
 
bravesfanMatt said:
How about some Ozuna love.. I know we were all hard on him to start the year and rightfully so probably.. but now that I think he has his personal problems behind him, he has been such a valuable piece to our team. Dude has a .320 OBP and a ~25% K rate xwOBA of .367... Those are incredible when you think he was hitting something like .100 in May. I think if it came to TDA and Ozuna as DH in playoffs, I am going Ozuna...

Ozuna has been worth ~1 war which is also pretty good for a DH only player..
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132 wRC+ in his last 350 plate appearances.

I’m still nervous he’ll go ice cold in the playoffs, but he’s got a chance for redemption if he goes off in the postseason
 
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