2016 Election Coverage: Aka Every Way You Look at it You Lose.

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zitothebrave said:
Not saying I agree with protests (though they're an incredibly effective way of letting people in power know you're dissatisfied and they may think twice before doing anything)but we don't have a democratic process, if we did Hillary would have won. We have a constitutional republic. Trump won because he won the handful of important states. Not because more people voted for him, important fact to not get twisted.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-states-of-america-a-republic-or-a-democracy/
 
mqt said:
I mean that regardless of how you might feel about Trump's proposals and statements, there are going to be many that feel like they don't belong in this country right now because of them. Being a straight white male, I cannot possibly know how that feels.
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You are basically saying they are fine to act like that because thy are ignorant.

And Im not going to tell them how to feel, just mock them for being ignorant. But I dont mind saying they are stupid for the way they are protesting and because I believe they are simply sore losers.
 
So let me get this straight, the same people who "voted against anger and hate" on Tuesday, are the same people who have been displaying anger and hate since the election?
 
zitothebrave said:
I'd pick that article apart, but eh. DOn't care. As far as proof we're not a Democracy, look no further than the SEnate. Doesn't exist for any other reason than to not give every person an equal vote. Literally why it exists.
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You would but you cant.
 
Seeing a lot of vitriol now for third party... the liberal way to blame others and take no responsibility... Here's the situation. HRC was an albatross of a candidate... and the republicans are no more "RACIST!" than they were the last two elections.

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sturg33 said:
Seeing a lot of vitriol now for third party... the liberal way to blame others and take no responsibility... Here's the situation. HRC was an albatross of a candidate... and the republicans are no more "RACIST!" than they were the last two elections.

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And I love seeing charts like this... as it shows fewer and fewer people are participating in the system... it will eventually unfold. I hope I'm alive to see it
 
sturg33 said:
No kidding... class cancellations would make me laugh if it wasn't scary. These are our future, and frankly... they are soft
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At least 95 percent or greater of it is young white people, early to mid 20s. Telling me about white privilege. A white person on a phone that can stream sporting events, that can order them Taco goddamn Bell to go, that can take a laptop into Starbucks and get a coffee with 50 things in it, lecturing me about white privilege.
 
bravesnumberone said:
At least 95 percent or greater of it is young white people, early to mid 20s. Telling me about white privilege. A white person on a phone that can stream sporting events, that can order them Taco goddamn Bell to go, that can take a laptop into Starbucks and get a coffee with 50 things in it, lecturing me about white privilege.
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I know that this guy is a political satirist... but this is the most spot on thing I've seen to date... Wanna know why we have Trump? Watch this video. And warning - LOTS of language.... but everyone should watch this from beginning to end

 
sturg33 said:
I know that this guy is a political satirist... but this is the most spot on thing I've seen to date... Wanna know why we have Trump? Watch this video. And warning - LOTS of language.... but everyone should watch this from beginning to end

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And on this point... I stumbled across this article. The best analysis of this election was written in April.
http://www.vox.com/2016/4/21/11451378/smug-american-liberalism

"Trump capturing the nomination will not dispel the smug style; if anything, it will redouble it. Faced with the prospect of an election between Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton, the smug will reach a fever pitch: six straight months of a sure thing, an opportunity to mock and scoff and ask, How could anybody vote for this guy? until a morning in November when they ask, What the f*** happened?"
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Fantastic article... long but worth the read
 
gilesfan said:
You are basically saying they are fine to act like that because thy are ignorant.

And Im not going to tell them how to feel, just mock them for being ignorant. But I dont mind saying they are stupid for the way they are protesting and because I believe they are simply sore losers.
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No. When certain lines are crossed, it becomes a different story. Violence is never acceptable and I'm not going to support it under any circumstance. I'm saying that staging a peaceful protest is fine, and I understand why there are high levels of fear and anger across the nation right now.
 
Tomahawking4life said:
So let me get this straight, the same people who "voted against anger and hate" on Tuesday, are the same people who have been displaying anger and hate since the election?
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Yep. Even before the election, which one would get your car vandalized? A Bernie/Hillary bumper sticker or a Trump?

The answer is pretty obvious.

People are now starting to blatantly fake stories of racism and violence. This gay film maker posted this up. No bandages. No wound. But he had the piece of mind to throw a clean ass white watch on after the hate crime was committed. I feel bad for the normal liberals because these people make everyone look bad.

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The things going on at college campuses are just ridiculous. I don't blame the students so much because they are young and mostly ignorant, it's the profs and administrators who lead and enable. But this is really nothing new, and the events of the past couple of days aren't as offensive as the suppression of free speech and hostility of original thought that has been going on for a long time. I guess one of the silver linings of Tuesday's results is that it's unlikely taxpayers will be asked to pay any more for this nonsense than they already are.
 
acesfull86 said:
The things going on at college campuses are just ridiculous. I don't blame the students so much because they are young and mostly ignorant, it's the profs and administrators who lead and enable. But this is really nothing new, and the events of the past couple of days aren't as offensive as the suppression of free speech and hostility of original thought that has been going on for a long time. I guess one of the silver linings of Tuesday's results is that it's unlikely taxpayers will be asked to pay any more for this nonsense than they already are.
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I completely agree with you about the suppression of free speech, on college campuses, or anywhere else for that matter. That's one of the most important things about college, being able to hear and experience new ideas. On the people don't like the results of this election going out and marching I say good for them. I'd rather them care than just sit around and get drunk or high and go back into their shells and let other people take care of them. That doesn't mean the violence part. That's not just wrong and not constitutionally protected like the right to peaceably assemble, that's a crime, period and should be treated as such.

On the overall behavior of some of the conservatives on this board since the elections, let me just say that you guys have a very short memory. You may not remember how you acted after the elections in 2008 and 2012 but I do, and so do some of us other old guys. The bottom line truth is that the root of your anger and disgust at these "poor losers" comes down to one thing and it isn't that they're acting out because they lost, or that some of them have been acting like aholes since they lost. In reality you share the same root cause that is now prompting them to act like this. So, in the end we really are much more alike than we are different.
 
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