2018 Offseason And Targets

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CrimsonCowboy said:
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Speaking of not credible....

We should be in. I just don't see why we should be giving up fair value. Who are they going to send him to?

Honestly I'd offer Wright, another pitcher not named Soroka or Touki, and A Jackson. I'd tell them to F off and find a better deal. Better return than they got for Yelich and it's not my fault they got hosed on previous deals.
 
Another thing about JTR is that we can plug him in at 1B maybe 3 or 4 times a month to keep his bat in the lineup and give Freddie some rest. SSS applies of course, but seems like he was at least average or slightly above average on D over at the cold corner last season
 
clvclv said:
105 starts between CF and SS - and that's after Seager was out for the year.

Take 49 of those starts at SS away (meaning he'd have played there once a week to give Seager a blow), and you're quickly running out of ABs.

24 starts at 2B, 24 starts at SS, and 24 starts at 3B doesn't approach your 100 start floor.
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Take Chris Taylor out. Kike Hernandez. Made 104 starts and accumulated 462 plate appearances. Take away 14 of those starts to get to 90, and he still makes ~406 plate appearances. And where does 24 starts per position come from? That seems like a pretty arbitrary number to set.

I think you're seriously underestimating the amount and the significance of variance throughout a baseball season. You could easily plan to have Camargo get 75 starts next year and then have Donaldson get hurt for a month. Or Ozzie hit a cold patch or Dansby fall off offensively. Any number of things could and inevitably will happen to get Camargo to ~90 starts next year.

I also think you're underestimating the odds of Camargo getting playing time in the OF. Even if we sign Nick, I think we'd all agree that Duvall isn't exactly a slam dunk platoon for him. Camargo vs. LHP is absolutely a slam dunk. If we don't sign Nick and instead get Peralta or Joc, Camargo is a slam dunk Platoon for either them or Ender offensively.

If AA didn't think that Snitker were open to implementing his plan, then resigning him was an absolutely moronic move. I don't think that is the case. I think if AA explains the plan to Snitker, he wouldn't have a problem implementing it.
 
clvclv said:
This works both ways - if no one points out something instead of kissing your *ss every time you post something, you'd get awfully bored reading your own posts for hours on end.

Or maybe not - is that you Bill???
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I'm more than open to criticism if its well thought out and follows some semblance of logical consistency. "Lighten Up" or something tantamount doesn't qualify.
 
I would guess that we have a deal on the table for the Marlins if they choose to accept. Probably Riley and one of the pitchers, not 2. Just guessing.
 
TheRunningAgent said:
I would guess that we have a deal on the table for the Marlins if they choose to accept. Probably Riley and one of the pitchers, not 2. Just guessing.
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Would you do that now?
I know Riley is far from can’t miss but I’m not sure I move him given it’s 2 years of jt and the market
 
Russ2dollas said:
Would you do that now?
I know Riley is far from can’t miss but I’m not sure I move him given it’s 2 years of jt and the market
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The report was that Riley was on the table. That’s the only reason I said that. I would rather keep him. I may entertain moving Camargo instead. You could argue is true value. Riley is still just a project.
 
TheRunningAgent said:
I would guess that we have a deal on the table for the Marlins if they choose to accept. Probably Riley and one of the pitchers, not 2. Just guessing.
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The Braves may not have talked with Miami for awhile, but i agree with the above. I think AA has an offer on the table and if Miami is ready to accept, AA will pounce. Miami is losing leverage by the day.
 
BeanieAntics said:
Why would rebuild mode preclude them from dealing Haniger? He's a very very valuable guy who is about to turn 28 years old. By the time they are out of a rebuild, he'll be exiting his prime. Of all the things I've heard this offseason, the M's insistence on keeping and building around Haniger might be one of the weirdest and dumbest. They should do everything in their power to get maximum value for him.

I'm not saying we should be the team to pony up, but holding on to Haniger long term is a bad idea.
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We did it with Freddie and it worked out very well.
 
msstate7 said:
Wasn't the consensus here the Mets' FO was incompetent a month or so ago?
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Familia and Ramos were good moves. I still dont get the Cano move, i know it's more about Diaz but they could have easily kept their prospects and signed a cheaper guy and 2 RP's for that money.
 
BeanieAntics said:
The fact that we signed McCann so quickly is kind of puzzling at the moment. It either means that Enscheff is right and AA has really misread the market or we didn't have enough money for a signing like this after Donaldson (plus cOF signing). Or maybe he likes McCann's value at 2 million more than this Ramos deal... Who knows. I'm not a fan lol
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McCann was signed for very little money and fits in well as platoon catcher with pitch framing, LEADER qualities.

He can be cut.

The only question to me is whether they should have signed Ramos instead and traded for OF help.

Ramos came in at a super reasonable short term deal. No prospect or draft cost.
 
BeanieAntics said:
Wanna make a conditional board bet? If Camargo starts the season on the bench, I'll be you that he sees 400 plate appearances. If we do something weird like trade him or start him in the outfield, bet is a push. If he sees less than 400 PAs you win.
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I’d lean under 400 AB unless dansby is traded or they don’t sign a LF.
 
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