2018 Offseason And Targets

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Freshmaker said:
Putting aside the total dollar amount for a minute, what's everyone's thoughts on the contract length that Harper and Machado will get? After watching teams get burned by the Pujols and ARod deals, I just find it unlikely that anyone is going to get a 10 year deal anymore. I realize those two are younger than Pujols and ARod when they got their mega deals, but still. My guess is that they'll get shorter, high AAV ones
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I could maybe see Bryce get 10, but of the teams interested, i think only Philly would go to 10 years because they have money to burn.

But i agree i think Manny or both get 7-8 years with opt outs after 4 years at a higher APY/AAV.
 
Freshmaker said:
lol...apparently on MLB Radio Frenchy said we're in on Harper :roll:
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He actually didn't say we were "in on him" - it was one of those "we've all been told that they've got more money than they've spent, and from some reports I've read - significantly more money - so I'm not ready to rule it out" deals.

It wasn't a statement so much as wishful thinking in the event he signs a short deal with a high AAV for a couple years and goes back on the market before he turns 30.

He reads Bowman a lot.
 
Freshmaker said:
Putting aside the total dollar amount for a minute, what's everyone's thoughts on the contract length that Harper and Machado will get? After watching teams get burned by the Pujols and ARod deals, I just find it unlikely that anyone is going to get a 10 year deal anymore. I realize those two are younger than Pujols and ARod when they got their mega deals, but still. My guess is that they'll get shorter, high AAV ones
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I'll be surprised if Harper doesn't get 10 years. Pretty sure he already turned down 10/300 from the Nats.

Machado may be a different story. But I think he ultimately gets a 10 year deal as well. Likely from the Yankees. Both players will also have multiple buyouts.
 
Carp said:
I'll be surprised if Harper doesn't get 10 years. Pretty sure he already turned down 10/300 from the Nats.

Machado may be a different story. But I think he ultimately gets a 10 year deal as well. Likely from the Yankees. Both players will also have multiple buyouts.
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Unless he decides to go shorter term at higher AAV...

Would you take 10 years at $300m or 5 years at $200m? The 5 year deal would be betting on himself to hit the market again with a chance to get another 4-5 year deal.
 
Hudson2 said:
I know it sounds crazy and hard to believe but if Liberty Media has intentions of selling at all then Harper would be a really good selling point to a potential buyer. And like I said earlier, AA leaving the WM early to meet with Liberty execs in Colorado is not something I recall the past GMs doing.
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New owners generally prefer less financial commitments on the books when they buy. Harper would subtract from the sale price not add to it.
 
bravesfanforlife88 said:
Unless he decides to go shorter term at higher AAV...

Would you take 10 years at $300m or 5 years at $200m? The 5 year deal would be betting on himself to hit the market again with a chance to get another 4-5 year deal.
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Personally, I take the latter. I know it sounds insane, but I prefer the opportunity to make more, especially when you already have $200 mill in the bag. I'd LOVE to sign him on a 4-5 year deal.
 
This talk of Harper signing some short contract is completely naive.

Harper is going to get a long deal with 1-3 opt outs. He is going to get the chance to take a short deal by exercising an opt out, or stick with a huge long deal.
 
smootness said:
Dude has a career .257 BABIP. It's not like that is due to jump way up.
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Good lord do you know how averaging works? When you've only played 3 full seasons, one full season below .240 is going to really drag the average down. His other two full seasons were .276 and .261.... a significant difference.
 
Enscheff said:
This talk of Harper signing some short contract is completely naive.

Harper is going to get a long deal with 1-3 opt outs. He is going to get the chance to take a short deal by exercising an opt out, or stick with a huge long deal.
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Yeah. You people quit talking on a message board when there's SO much more to talk about. You realize Texas Instruments is about to come out with a new calculator, right?!?!?
 
clvclv said:
He actually didn't say we were "in on him" - it was one of those "we've all been told that they've got more money than they've spent, and from some reports I've read - significantly more money - so I'm not ready to rule it out" deals.

It wasn't a statement so much as wishful thinking in the event he signs a short deal with a high AAV for a couple years and goes back on the market before he turns 30.

He reads Bowman a lot.
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What? His quote was “I don’t care what anyone says, we are still in the running for Bryce Harper. A lot of people don’t know this but he loves Atlanta."

But keep on doing the clv
 
clvclv said:
Yeah. You people quit talking on a message board when there's SO much more to talk about. You realize Texas Instruments is about to come out with a new calculator, right?!?!?
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So confidently dumb...

Does Pache and Wilson for Peralta and Bradley still excite you?

I can't wait to bring that one up over and over.
 
clvclv said:
Yeah. You people quit talking on a message board when there's SO much more to talk about. You realize Texas Instruments is about to come out with a new calculator, right?!?!?
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That sounds like something a villain would say in a teen movie. You'd need to cast it right to make it funny, but it could work.
 
Enscheff said:
This talk of Harper signing some short contract is completely naive.

Harper is going to get a long deal with 1-3 opt outs. He is going to get the chance to take a short deal by exercising an opt out, or stick with a huge long deal.
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Wouldn't it make sense for the player for the shorter contract with the higher AAV though?

10 years / $300m with opt outs at 3/5/7 years....
5 years / $200m with opt out at 3 years

even if he were to opt out at 3 years, he still makes more money.
 
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