This is obviously more posturing to create the appearance of high interest in hopes that someone, likely the Braves, will panic and up their offer. None of these reports are to be taken as anything more until an actual announcement is made. Someone may yet panic, but it hasn't happened so far.
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This is obviously more posturing to create the appearance of high interest in hopes that someone, likely the Braves, will panic and up their offer. None of these reports are to be taken as anything more until an actual announcement is made. Someone may yet panic, but it hasn't happened so far.
BeanieAntics
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Minter isn't Kimbrel, but I do think that people are overrating Kimbrel based on who he was 5 years ago. Minter's FIP was right in line with Kimbrel's FIP from 3 out of the last 4 years.
cajunrevenge
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Tired of these Realmuto rumors. **** or get off the pot Marlins.
bravesfanMatt
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Sounds like the JTR saga is about 70% done.
era vs fip is the gist of it
There's a 35% chance you are right, a 35% chance you are wrong, a 15% chance Harper goes to the Pads and a 15% chance TheThe and Encheff become best buds after attending a Braves playoff game with clvclv.
depends how much alcohol is involved
Horsehide Harry
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After closed-room discussion I've decided to announce our 2018 Forum Award Winners after the Realmuto saga is over. Don't want our winners to be overshadowed by JTR news.
BeanieAntics
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...... I am infuriated at Derek Jeter now. Your defense was **** Jeets.
Will it ever be over?
msstate7
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Zero chance enscheff and clv on pot... way too high strung. Thethe, perhaps
73% done with a Marlins’ February 1 deadline?
zbhargrove
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I don't know if he was or not but an argument can be made they were pretty darn close
Kimbrel wouldn't be replacing Venters, he would be replacing the current worst BP arm, who is very likely about a 0.
At this point, I would be surprised if Kimbrel gets Jansen money (5/80+), but he should be able to beat the AAV record of Wade Davis ($17.3M for 3 years). I would venture to guess he will settle for something in the range of 3/54, or maybe a similar 2 or 4 year deal...options, all that good stuff.
Even though Kimbrel won't be projected to produce that much WAR over those seasons, large market teams can afford expensive BP arms because they provide a lot of value in the postseason when they can be leveraged more due to all the days off.
I just don't envision the Braves giving Kimbrel $18M per year, or even $15M per year. Something really odd would have to happen to get Kimbrel back in Atlanta...like he isn't signed in mid-February and the value is just too great to pass up. We are seeing teams like the Padres pop up in Machado/Harper rumors because their markets are so slow, so who knows what the new FA expectations should be.
At this point, I would be surprised if Kimbrel gets Jansen money (5/80+), but he should be able to beat the AAV record of Wade Davis ($17.3M for 3 years). I would venture to guess he will settle for something in the range of 3/54, or maybe a similar 2 or 4 year deal...options, all that good stuff.
Even though Kimbrel won't be projected to produce that much WAR over those seasons, large market teams can afford expensive BP arms because they provide a lot of value in the postseason when they can be leveraged more due to all the days off.
I just don't envision the Braves giving Kimbrel $18M per year, or even $15M per year. Something really odd would have to happen to get Kimbrel back in Atlanta...like he isn't signed in mid-February and the value is just too great to pass up. We are seeing teams like the Padres pop up in Machado/Harper rumors because their markets are so slow, so who knows what the new FA expectations should be.
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Well Arenado got 26 million in arby so 30 mil a year shouldn't be out of the question for Manny and Harper.
Tapate50
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26 mill for an impact defender and mvp level bat on a one year deal isn’t the same as how Harper will be valued.
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