nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
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2024 Field
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zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
LMAO. If you saw my ballot every election you'd be shocked. Here's a hint, Biden is the only D president I"ve voted for and it was pretty much only because there wasn't a better option in NH (no Green party, Jorgenson was not a Libertarian I could put myself behind) I've voted Green Party, Libertarian, and other ways (sorry don't remember every vote) even on the last ticket while voting for Biden, I still voted for Sununu for governor because he did a hell of a job during COVID and I didn't like his opponent. I voted for R legislators and more. I voted for Libertarians where it made sense for me to do it.
What makes me dangerous unlike you is I'm an educated voter. I actually study what a candidate is for.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
Trump won't run in 2024, he'll huff and puff, and then back DeSantis if he runs or send Don Jr. to run. He's gonna hold rallies beforehand because it stokes his ego and gets him paid.
acesfull86
Well-known member
It’s 100% on the R’s for not running better candidates and for abandoning what they used to stand for. I have no use for their economic populism. They used to talk about cutting spending, but they’ve proven themselves frauds. They talk personal responsibility and autonomy from the government, but we can crash the website listing the issues where they fail to practice what they preach.
They’re better on guns, they’re better on pronouns and the silliness of some cultural issues, and they tend to nominate better judges. None of those things are enough to get me to vote for them in most cases.
The bottom line is the 2 party duopoly leaves out huge swaths of people who don’t feel like they’re being represented. I’d rather play the long game and “waste” my vote rather than hold my nose and vote for the majority of clowns the D’s and R’s run out.
Trump is running
cajunrevenge
Well-known member
If little thethe says he running that's all I need to hear. Trump isnt running.
Jaw
It's OVER 5,000!
Manchin is exactly where he wants to be. He holds out on the things where it makes sense for the persona he's developed, then gets lots of attention and sweeteners thrown his way in exchange for minor concessions.
Sinema confuses me, because so far I'm inclined to think she believes in what she is doing, as crazy as that sounds. I disagree with her on plenty but it's hard not to like and respect her.
cajunrevenge
Well-known member
Wait, I thought the Democrats didnt have a Mitt Romney and were all unified in wanting a communist utopia? Dont remember where I heard that. Probably the local crackhead.
cajunrevenge
Well-known member
60 senate seats..... lol. Bold prediction from the side that cant even get close to 50% of the vote.
Jaw
It's OVER 5,000!
This is the correct take.
https://nypost.com/2021/09/11/why-t...mpaign=site buttons&__twitter_impression=true
When Drew and Marlene Proctor left their Jersey Shore, Pa., home to take their three-week trip across the back roads of the country for their honeymoon, they relished different sightings all along their journey.
But one thing remained constant no matter what state, city, town or village they passed through, Drew said, “and that was the amount of Trump signs we saw everywhere.”
“And I mean everywhere,” he added for emphasis. “They were in wealthy suburban neighborhoods, blue-collar middle-class towns. You would see them in farm fields and painted on the sides of businesses. Most of them were either large flags, although plenty of them were hand-painted homemade signs too.”
In total, the couple traveled through 12 states and logged more than 5,000 miles on their sojourn. I spoke with both Proctors last month as they sat outside a diner, enjoying a burger near Mt. Rushmore in Keystone, SD. As if on cue, a motorcyclist drove by with a Trump flag billowing out the back.
Drew, 47, said people who didn’t vote for Trump and regularly fly over these states might be surprised or even shocked by the show of support for the former president who lost to Joe Biden last fall.
Worse, he said, they might mistake the display as cultish.
“Those assumptions would be wrong,” said Drew, who is a service manager for a European industrial machining company.
“The 2016 presidential election was not about Donald Trump. If people took the time to listen, it was about the dissatisfaction with the establishments of both parties, and I will tell you that was brewing long before he stepped on that escalator in 2015.”
Marlene, a 43-year-old ER clinician supervisor, nodded.
“Trump was the consequence of people’s sentiments, he was not the cause.”
...
“Putting those signs up was their way of saying this is the new resistance,” said Youngstown State University political scientist Paul Sracic. “We saw them in places that historically supported Democrats, like here in Trumbull and Mahoning counties, two of the bluest counties in Ohio, as well as blue counties in Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania.”
That the signs are popping up again in these same places today “shows the transition from blue to red is permanent,” Sracic said.
...
When I asked people why they were still putting their pro-Trump feelings on display, they all echoed the Proctors’ sentiments: It wasn’t about him, it was about them. It wasn’t about being unable to let go of his loss or their refusal to accept Biden as their president. It wasn’t about being “left” or “right,” either. Rather, it was about insiders versus outsiders — with Trump supporters most definitely feeling like the outsiders.
And, with the midterm elections coming up next year, the Democratic Party should be concerned.
Because, even after Trump’s shocking win in 2016, the insiders on the coasts, who dominate the nation’s culture and media, still don’t understand the people who voted for him.
“And that is OK, I guess,” Drew said. “They will, I suppose, understand when the next election happens. There is a pretty good chance they may end up being surprised by the results.”
https://nypost.com/2021/09/11/why-t...mpaign=site buttons&__twitter_impression=true
When Drew and Marlene Proctor left their Jersey Shore, Pa., home to take their three-week trip across the back roads of the country for their honeymoon, they relished different sightings all along their journey.
But one thing remained constant no matter what state, city, town or village they passed through, Drew said, “and that was the amount of Trump signs we saw everywhere.”
“And I mean everywhere,” he added for emphasis. “They were in wealthy suburban neighborhoods, blue-collar middle-class towns. You would see them in farm fields and painted on the sides of businesses. Most of them were either large flags, although plenty of them were hand-painted homemade signs too.”
In total, the couple traveled through 12 states and logged more than 5,000 miles on their sojourn. I spoke with both Proctors last month as they sat outside a diner, enjoying a burger near Mt. Rushmore in Keystone, SD. As if on cue, a motorcyclist drove by with a Trump flag billowing out the back.
Drew, 47, said people who didn’t vote for Trump and regularly fly over these states might be surprised or even shocked by the show of support for the former president who lost to Joe Biden last fall.
Worse, he said, they might mistake the display as cultish.
“Those assumptions would be wrong,” said Drew, who is a service manager for a European industrial machining company.
“The 2016 presidential election was not about Donald Trump. If people took the time to listen, it was about the dissatisfaction with the establishments of both parties, and I will tell you that was brewing long before he stepped on that escalator in 2015.”
Marlene, a 43-year-old ER clinician supervisor, nodded.
“Trump was the consequence of people’s sentiments, he was not the cause.”
...
“Putting those signs up was their way of saying this is the new resistance,” said Youngstown State University political scientist Paul Sracic. “We saw them in places that historically supported Democrats, like here in Trumbull and Mahoning counties, two of the bluest counties in Ohio, as well as blue counties in Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania.”
That the signs are popping up again in these same places today “shows the transition from blue to red is permanent,” Sracic said.
...
When I asked people why they were still putting their pro-Trump feelings on display, they all echoed the Proctors’ sentiments: It wasn’t about him, it was about them. It wasn’t about being unable to let go of his loss or their refusal to accept Biden as their president. It wasn’t about being “left” or “right,” either. Rather, it was about insiders versus outsiders — with Trump supporters most definitely feeling like the outsiders.
And, with the midterm elections coming up next year, the Democratic Party should be concerned.
Because, even after Trump’s shocking win in 2016, the insiders on the coasts, who dominate the nation’s culture and media, still don’t understand the people who voted for him.
“And that is OK, I guess,” Drew said. “They will, I suppose, understand when the next election happens. There is a pretty good chance they may end up being surprised by the results.”
striker42
Well-known member
"“The 2016 presidential election was not about Donald Trump. If people took the time to listen, it was about the dissatisfaction with the establishments of both parties, and I will tell you that was brewing long before he stepped on that escalator in 2015.”
Marlene, a 43-year-old ER clinician supervisor, nodded.
“Trump was the consequence of people’s sentiments, he was not the cause.”'
This is 100% accurate. The Republican establishment only cared about businesses, the Democrats cared about victims. Prime ground for Trump.
Marlene, a 43-year-old ER clinician supervisor, nodded.
“Trump was the consequence of people’s sentiments, he was not the cause.”'
This is 100% accurate. The Republican establishment only cared about businesses, the Democrats cared about victims. Prime ground for Trump.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
the dude who only cared about himself
change is fine in principle but people should take care what kind of change they're buying
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
by now we all know this
And yet you still bring up his character all the time. It’s actually convenient so you don’t have to address the results on ground.