2025 Trade Deadline Thread

Enscheff said:
Someone says AA has been terrible lately, and you guys jump in to defend him by pointing out the injuries have been rough, as if that somehow excuses him being terrible. The point "many SPs got injured" isn't even counter to the statement "AA has been terrible", so why even bring it up other than to be argumentative?

Then carrying on for pages is what I would call bending over backwards. AA has been terrible, period. No amount of discussion over injuries changes that fact.
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Oh man it’s almost as if conversations can have *nuance*.
 
Nerfherders said:
I kind of feel like Holmes is still a work in progress. He has swing and miss stuff but he needs to work on sequencing. No reason to give up on him.
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It's not really "giving up" on him.

I think it's just realizing that he's a 29 year old pitcher who didn't even reach the major until a year ago. His value will never be higher and even if he can manage to stay healthy, he may never replicate this season again.

On the other hand, it seems counter intuitive to trade a decent pitcher with cheap control when we have pushed our pitching depth to it's limits this year. But I have faith we can find a solid pitcher or 2 among this next crop of talented pitchers in AA/AAA.

As always, it depends on the package being offered.
 
50PoundHead said:
I didn't realize that Laureano was having such a solid season, but he may be on his way to the highest bWAR of his career.

As for Anthopoulos, he built this team for the Acuna window by assuming that signing almost the entire offense to extensions would assure success. No question the Braves have been hit hard by injuries, but the extensions in total (as I've written before, each extension standing on its own has merit, but it's the aggregation that causes problems) have limited payroll flexibility and the ability to make changes on the fly. Drafting has probably been a solid "B" but that's mostly been with pitching outside of Harris and Baldwin (and half a point for Langeliers). I guess what I'm trying to say is that Anthopoulos went "in for a penny in for a pound" when he built the squad post-2021 and because of many of these decisions, we are stuck with what we have.
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Laureano was really good for the Braves last year when they needed it, and has a history of being a solid 4th outfielder/platoon player. The Braves knew they needed at least two outfielders with Acuña set to miss half the season. Not tendering him a contract for chump change was idiotic unless he was going to land a bigger fish, and many of us said as much at the time.
 
As strange as it is to say, Nick Allen might have a little bit of value as well to a team in need of a SS. The SS market is just pure hot garbage
 
CyYoung31 said:
Laureano was really good for the Braves last year when they needed it, and has a history of being a solid 4th outfielder/platoon player. The Braves knew they needed at least two outfielders with Acuña set to miss half the season. Not tendering him a contract for chump change was idiotic unless he was going to land a bigger fish, and many of us said as much at the time.
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I can only assume AA was angling for a different move and it didn't work out (like may be Kyle Tucker). There was zero reason to dump Laureano just to sign Profar.
 
Deester11 said:
I've skipped the entire argument but is there someone saying AA has been good over the last year and a half at least? I will humbly accept flames for my thought, but AA has been mid to less over that span. So say, GM's aren't perfect. I get that, but injuries aside, the flaws of shopping in the bargain bins just in case of said injuries is and was a "hope" strategy. It's been that way for a couple of years. There's nothing wrong with calling that out even if you're an AA apologist, fan, supporter or whatever.
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Nobody has claimed he's been good. As usual, the discussion can't seem to stay on point.

Someone makes an exaggerated claim like "OMG AA is a moron who didn't make moves, he needs to be fired". Then people jump in to defend AA, using counterpoints that aren't really counter to the original point, like "nobody could have built depth to overcome losing 4 SPs". The argument then circles around the drain because of the logical failings at the beginning of the discussion, just like most argument on this site tend to do.

Yes, AA has been terrible the last 1-2 years. No, it's not reasonable to expect AA to build enough depth to cover the SP losses.

However, the injuries do not excuse his failings the last 1-2 years.
 
Carp said:
I can only assume AA was angling for a different move and it didn't work out (like may be Kyle Tucker). There was zero reason to dump Laureano just to sign Profar.
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Yes, it was all part of his terrible off season. Laureano is exactly the type of OF bat this team should have on the bench, especially with Acuna starting out on the DL and a question mark after that.

My guess is he had a payroll number in mind, and that number changed on him and he had to scramble. AA is not incompetent, so it's hard to understand how he had such an incompetent off season.
 
Enscheff said:
Someone says AA has been terrible lately, and you guys jump in to defend him by pointing out the injuries have been rough, as if that somehow excuses him being terrible. The point "many SPs got injured" isn't even counter to the statement "AA has been terrible", so why even bring it up other than to be argumentative?

Then carrying on for pages is what I would call bending over backwards. AA has been terrible, period. No amount of discussion over injuries changes that fact.
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Yes. When someone comes along saying our pitching depth has been crap since 2021 they are going to get roasted. I'm sorry if that offends you.
 
CrimsonCowboy said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1948804080497033658
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Going to the Rockies.

LHP Griffin Helling was the Yankees' 6th-round pick in 2024 out of LSU and currently in High-A. Yankees' 6th-ranked prospect with a 45 value.

RHP Josh Grosz was Yankees' 11th-round pick in 2023 out of East Carolina and is also pitching in High-A. He was the Yankees' 21st-ranked prospect with a 40 value.

Question for all of us is how does Ozuna measure up to McMahon in terms of value?
 
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