Affordable Care Act

They said if you liked your insurance you could keep your insurance—but that’s not true. It was never true! They said if you liked your doctor you could keep your doctor—but that’s not true. It was never true! They said they would cover everyone who needed it, and instead people who had coverage are losing it—millions of them! They said they would make insurance less expensive—but it’s more expensive! Premium shock, deductible shock. They said don’t worry, your health information will be secure, but instead the whole setup looks like a hacker’s holiday. Bad guys are apparently already going for your private information.

And it is unbelievable – simply unbelievable – that the administration is so proud, so childish, so ideological, so ignorant and so uncaring about the bill’s victims that they refuse to stop, delay, go back, redraw and ease the trauma.
 
"...The law was written to make it almost impossible for grandfathered policies to survive. Almost any change to the policy negates that protection, and the law also adds taxes to plans deemed to be to generous (45% at my company) which will tend to force companies to change their plans, thereby losing their grandfather status as well.

Previously, policies were usually confined within state lines. Now we have seen instances where they are confined within county lines, and people in one part of the state (such as California) cannot get plans available to people in another part of that same state.

And, of course, the so-called Affordable Care Act (aka Obamacare) has not addressed some of the major cost drivers facing healthcare today such as the need for tort reform and the battery of often unnecessary (but always costly) tests that are run to cover hospitals' and doctors' rear ends in the event of a future lawsuit...."

From the comments to this article.
 
in favor? I'm sure there are pockets of support and pockets of anti and pockets of wait and see

if i cared to address them -- I would have.

Frankly I got bored when you compared a rate change in health insurance to a war that drug out almost 10 years,caused unrest in a whole region of the world led to the loss of life of thousands of Americans and hundreds of thousands of Iraqi , let alone the $$ cost --
 
57Brave said:
in favor? I'm sure there are pockets of support and pockets of anti and pockets of wait and see

if i cared to address them -- I would have.

Frankly I got bored when you compared a rate change in health insurance to a war that drug out almost 10 years,caused unrest in a whole region of the world led to the loss of life of thousands of Americans and hundreds of thousands of Iraqi , let alone the $$ cost --
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I wasn't comparing the two. I was just sick of your "it's the decision - deal with it"

I'm glad you support something that is causing millions of Americans financial and health pain. Gotta support the team!
 
It's too late to be in or out of favor. That ship's sailed

and hey, it is the law and after all is said and done - fists shook and yelled out the window - deal with it best you can. That's all any of us can do
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I guess equated would have been a better word than compared.
 
57Brave said:
On Monday, Republicans said the gubernatorial race in Virginia is "a referendum on Obamacare."
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A month ago, it looked like the Dem would win in a landslide...yesterday, he won by 2.5 points. The debacle that is Obamacare is the only thing that made that race close.
 
acesfull86 said:
A month ago, it looked like the Dem would win in a landslide...yesterday, he won by 2.5 points. The debacle that is Obamacare is the only thing that made that race close.
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Close only counts in horseshoes and handgranades. Show me where Cuchinello won the popular vote then we have a discussion
 
57Brave said:
Read a report this evening that Joe Biden called the wrong person with a congratulations. Really don't know any more about it than that
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So you have nothing on this one - seems like you should be outraged that privileged private data is up for grabs. I wonder if this happened under Bush...
 
acesfull86 said:
A month ago, it looked like the Dem would win in a landslide...yesterday, he won by 2.5 points. The debacle that is Obamacare is the only thing that made that race close.
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So what does it say that 2012 and 2013 were both a referendum on Obamacare and they still lost?
 
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