I think they were concerned that if they benched him to make room for Seager, it could hurt the team's chemistry since Uribe is so popular. So I guess they figured trading him was better. I think that's a mistake, but just because they're loaded doesn't mean they're smart.
Alberto Callaspo Possibly Being Traded
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I think they were concerned that if they benched him to make room for Seager, it could hurt the team's chemistry since Uribe is so popular. So I guess they figured trading him was better. I think that's a mistake, but just because they're loaded doesn't mean they're smart.
That's obviously not great, but at 2B, with good defense and some speed, it's not awful, either. You can argue there aren't many good 2B in baseball, but regardless, he's about average. So an average position player is certainly not awful. It's not a lot, but it's something.
And he has the lowest ceiling among the guys we got in that trade. I understand if people think we should have kept Upton, but if we were going to trade him, we got what looks to be a really good return.
jpx7
Very Flirtatious, but Doubts What Love Is.
Stults, I suppose, was just there to balance salaries; Jaime was there to balance weight, since losing Uribe drops a lot of mass of their roster. They may stretch Ian Thomas out and use him in the rotation, since it seems like their LHP relief is solid enough for the time-being.
Heyward
<B>Voted Worst Poster <br>'13, '14, '15 (Co-Winner
They got the 75th pick in the draft, how is that bad?
It's clear you and a few others on here just simply dont like the new FO and are still bitter Heyward is gone.
They've basically done what the Cubs have done the last few years, sign some bandaids and cash them in for prospects at the deadline.
jpx7
Very Flirtatious, but Doubts What Love Is.
Basically Jason Heyward just at 2b instead of RF?
I couldn't resist.
I would say you're poking the bear, but they traded him too.
Nerfherders
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I'm a little late to the party, but nice trade. The only thing I can think of from the Dodgers standpoint is they wanted someone who could play 2B/3B, and they needed rotation depth because of injuries to the back end of their rotation. I'm not expecting much from Uribe but he will be more valuable than Callaspo.
Heyward
<B>Voted Worst Poster <br>'13, '14, '15 (Co-Winner
They've hit on most of the deals they've made so far, why wouldnt we?
Other than Stults, and Cahill, and i guess Markakis, where else have they gone wrong?
Heyward
<B>Voted Worst Poster <br>'13, '14, '15 (Co-Winner
Says who?
Hart and co have done more good than bad, so what the Stults/Cahill moves didnt work out.
Stults netted us Withrow which could be a bullpen option, and Cahill got the 75th pick which could be a nice prospect down the line.
They were low risk deals that had no long term affect, oh well.
Braves1976
It's OVER 5,000!
MLBTR: "The deal is official, with both teams announcing it. Stults has been acquired and designated in one fell swoop, indicating that he was included in large part to offset Uribe’s salary. With more than three but less than five years of service, Stults will have the right to elect free agency if he clears outright waivers, but would have to give up his guaranteed salary to do so.
On the Los Angeles side of the deal, only Callaspo will head to the club’s active roster. Jaime will look to work into form at extended spring training, while Thomas will take a job at Triple-A.
Believe me. I wanted to keep Upton I just don't think the Braves can compete with other teams in FA. Its just not in the cards. It was the right move and all the pieces who are playing have performed well. Its been a good deal so far.
That is a bit much
Stults was a throw-in - to offset the money - no one ever claimed he wasn't.
One of the things that separates the "sides" around here is that everybody wants to take shots at posters for being pro-front office or anti-front office. Instead of the deal being a "win-win" for both sides (which it is), everyone wants to point out that it can't possibly be.
Every player not named Withrow in this deal was simply window-dressing. The Dodgers were getting very close to DFAing Uribe and the Braves were very close to DFAing both Callaspo and Stults. The Braves have seen enough of Thomas and Jaime to have come to the decision that neither will be in their plans going forward. The deal clears three spots on the 40-Man Roster for Hart & Company to be able to promote players without having to wait 10 days to release Stults, Callaspo, or Thomas (while waiting out the DFA period).
The Dodgers' motivation was saving money, pure and simple. The difference in salaries saves them roughly $1.1 million of the Luxury Tax Penalty. In return for that the Braves get Withrow and additional roster flexibility. They may wind up DFAing Uribe like the Dodgers were going to do, but that won't HAVE to happen if they choose to call someone up in a hurry since they've now rid themselves of Stults, Callaspo, and Thomas.
(BTW, this is EXACTLY the types of deals Zaidi and Friedman were making when they were on the opposite side of the spectrum with their old teams - adding surplus talent for their organizations in every deal.)
It was a solid......really small/low impact trade. Lets not act like Withrow is Craig Kimbrel until his first appearance.
Wasn't Jace Peterson in that trade?
cajunrevenge
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I think we stand just as much chance of signing Justin as we did before the trade. Maybe moreso because of the trade since I doubt the Padres make the Kimbrel deal if they didnt get Justin. The money we save through 2017 would pay Justin's first 2 years of his contract.
In the sense that the Dodgers wouldn't take Cahill's money instead since it was just a cost-cutting move for them.
jpx7
Very Flirtatious, but Doubts What Love Is.
While I think they'll retain Uribe, at least for a while, viewing him as an upgrade over current third-base options on the roster, I think clearing a couple spots on the forty-man while netting something for Ian Thomas (probably the second most valuable player in the transaction, after Withrow) is a pretty solid developmental coup.
Now they need to hit the phones hard to find suitors for Ne Plus Ultra; I'm sure some team with a catching need has a once-promising pitcher on the DL.