Another School Shooting Today

[Carp]

Yeah but you'ref comparing something that happens a few times vs something that happens regularly.

Well yeah, we do have a much larger population than our Northern neighbors, and ipso facto, more crazy people.

Why do people continue to try to compare the US to other countries when the US is nothing like other countries around the world?

 

[goldfly]

Well yeah, we do have a much larger population than our Northern neighbors, and ipso facto, more crazy people.

Why people want to compare the US to other countries still amazes me, when the US is nothing like other countries around the world.

how many have you visited to say such a statement?

 

[goldfly]

Let's come down hard on car manufacturers too if someone hurts another in a car wreck, after all it's on the manufacturers then if someone does something in their product!

great point

 

[Carp]

There's something else in America that's the problem. Other countries with similar issues in diversity and economics and similar gun adoption rates don't have the same issues, there has to be something as the root cause of things.

I would say the main thing that is difference in these countries is lack of racial/economic diversity. Whether anyone wants to admit it or not, racial tension is highly prevalent in the US and is a major component to most crime that you see. And sadly, that's just the facts of life. Different races just don't get along, and it's been that way since the beginning of time. And it's going to stay the way for long past the time we are dead.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to notice that Sweden and Switzerland (high gun ownership/low crime rate countries) have a lot of rich white people living there and not much racial diversity. And rich white people don't go around shooting each other all that often.

 

[Carp]

how many of you visited to say such a statement?

I've visited 7 different countries so far, not that it matters.

 

[goldfly]

I would say the main thing that is difference in these countries is lack of racial/economic diversity. Whether anyone wants to admit it or not, racial tension is highly prevalent in the US and is a major component to most crime that you see. And sadly, that's just the facts of life. Different races just don't get along, and it's been that way since the beginning of time. And it's going to stay the way for long past the time we are dead.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to notice that Sweden and Switzerland (high gun ownership/low crime rate countries) have a lot of rich white people living there and not much racial diversity. And rich white people don't go around shooting each other all that often.

yeah

shocking

100's years of slavery, jim crow laws and disenfranchising etc can set people back

who could ever see that leading to problems in a country

oh wait, you didn't actually bring that up cause somehow in the views of many right wing/fox news/talk radio think it is an even playing field etc

 

[goldfly]

I've visited 7 different countries so far, not that it matters.

how could it not matter?

you're saying it is no like no other country and you have been to 3% of the world to compare it to for that statement i quoted

 

[Carp]

yeah

shocking

100's years of slavery, jim crow laws and disenfranchising etc can set people back

who could ever see that leading to problems in a country

oh wait, you didn't actually bring that up cause somehow in the views of many right wing/fox news/talk radio think it is an even playing field etc

I don't know what point you are trying to make. I am not putting any blame on any one race in particular. And yes, all the things you mentioned are major causes of racial tension today.

 

[Carp]

how could it not matter?

you're saying it is no like no other country and you have been to 3% of the world to compare it to for that statement i quoted

How many other developed countries have as large of a population and have similar demographics?

 

[goldfly]

I don't know what point you are trying to make. I am not putting any blame on any one race in particular. And yes everything you mentioned are major causes of racial tension today.

cause you're being a pussy then

if you can't admit white people were the big problem that set a group of people back as much as the black community in this country then you aren't worth talking to on the subject

I can say that while agreeing with Charles Barkley cause i am honest on the conversation

 

[goldfly]

How many other developed countries have as large of a population and have similar demographics?

that is a totally different statement than your original one

but most of the developed countries you could still compare per capita

 

[Carp]

cause you're being a pussy then

if you can't admit white people were the big problem that set a group of people back as much as the black community in this country then you aren't worth talking to on the subject

I can say that while agreeing with Charles Barkley cause i am honest on the conversation

Ok. That doesn't have anything to do with the fact that racial tension exists every where in the world, not just the US. But no other country is the sort of melting pot that America is. Sure white people contribute more than others here. But that fact should be expected since whites are the majority.

Ever been to Latin American countries outside of the tourist areas? I can assure you they aren't very fond of white Americans.

 

[goldfly]

Ever been to Latin American countries outside of the tourist areas? I can assure you they aren't very fond of white Americans.

uh, yeah.

done that a few times down there.

the rest of your **** is just as bad as far left wing people. it's pretty pathetic actually. "Sure white people contribute more than others here" :shakemyhead

 

[Carp]

that is a totally different statement than your original one

but most of the developed countries you could still compare per capita

My original statement asked why do people want to compare the US to different countries when they are nothing alike.

And we aren't talking about per capita since I clearlly stated population size as a comparison. When talking about how often something happens, it seems pretty plausible that it might happen more often in a country with twice the population of countries you are trying to compare them to.

 

[goldfly]

My original statement asked why do people want to compare the US to different countries when they are nothing alike.

And we aren't talking about per capita since I clearlly stated population size as a comparison. When talking about how often something happens, it seems pretty plausible that it might happen more often in a country with twice the population of countries you are trying to compare them to.

i guess you didn't understand the point of me asking how many countries you have visited to say such a statement (now you have said it twice)

do you not get the point of the per capita stat then either? cause it seems not

 

[Carp]

uh, yeah.

done that a few times down there.

the rest of your **** is just as bad as far left wing people. it's pretty pathetic actually. "Sure white people contribute more than others here" :shakemyhead

Not sure what your issue is. I've agreed with basically everything you've said regarding racism.

 

[Carp]

i guess you didn't understand the point of me asking how many countries you have visited to say such a statement (now you have said it twice)

do you not get the point of the per capita stat then either? cause it seems not

And I obviously am talking about the demographics of every country, something you don't need to visit a particular country to actually know, as demographic rates are readily available via the internet.

And you obviously don't get the point that the size of the country is completely relevant as well in the discussion. I assume you are talking about demographic rates. If not I apologize, as it's about time for me to go to bed. Even accounting for per capita, you are talking about a situation that is a very rare occurrence. Wouldn't it seem plausible that you would see a rare occurrence at much lower rates or even not at all in a much less populated country?

 

[Tapate50]

To get this thread back on track a little...

You won't get legal gun owners to give up a thing until this country takes illegal guns off the street and drops the hammer on criminals with illegally possessed weapons. The RB from UGA had a gun with the SERIAL NUMBER SCRATCHED OFF, and did NO TIME.

 

[AerchAngel]

cause you're being a pussy then

if you can't admit white people were the big problem that set a group of people back as much as the black community in this country then you aren't worth talking to on the subject

I can say that while agreeing with Charles Barkley cause i am honest on the conversation

Great post.

 

[AerchAngel]

To get this thread back on track a little...

You won't get legal gun owners to give up a thing until this country takes illegal guns off the street and drops the hammer on criminals with illegally possessed weapons. The RB from UGA had a gun with the SERIAL NUMBER SCRATCHED OFF, and did NO TIME.

You see blacks will shoot up a school, gang or drug related and so stupid schit like this they don't bother. Whites, you can't trust them, a girl dump you or you get bullied, kill your folks, grab their weapons and kill a lot of people because you got your feelings hurt.

How can you stop that?

Blacks get dealt with when they get dealt with and they aren't killing themselves chickenschit style either, they will go out shooting the po po until their last breath.