Heyward
<B>Voted Worst Poster <br>'13, '14, '15 (Co-Winner
Bringing back Moose on a 3/50ish deal wouldnt be bad but you're right, they should just rebuild since Cain and Hosmer left. They wont be contending anytime soon.
Around the League: 2017 offseason edition / 2018 Season
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Bringing back Moose on a 3/50ish deal wouldnt be bad but you're right, they should just rebuild since Cain and Hosmer left. They wont be contending anytime soon.
Horsehide Harry
<B>Mr. Free Trade</B>
I hope this offseason wakes up a few people that wanted Dayton Moore.
KC having to rebuild was obvious to anyone paying attention yet Moore held all his chips instead of cashing in when he could...
BeanieAntics
Arbitration Eligible
Signing Moustakas would be so unbelievably stupid for the Royals in my view. I genuinely don't understand sinking assets into a player that will do nothing but hurt your rebuild. You sink money into him. You don't get the draft pick attached to him. You run the risk of actually being marginally better because of him possibly costing you higher draft picks and the associated slot money. Its just soooooo bad for a team that is obviously wayyyyy outside their competitive window. I can't think of a single argument that would justify bringing him in. At least from a teambuilding standpoint. I guess if you want to go with the "they have to sell tickets" argument. But Moose isn't exactly the type of player that is an immediate draw to the ballpark. With or without Moose, you are going to struggle to sell tickets to see a team that is likely going to be the worst in baseball this year.
Russ2dollas
10 yr, $185 million Extension
Who is going to sign him? Will he have to take the qo?
I’m out on the Braves as an option with his obp, injury history and loss of pick.
The draft pick compensation ONLY comes if yhe player you lose signs for more than $50 million elsewhere. While it certainly doesn't make sense to bring back a player that's "in demand" elsewhere, exactly which teams are lining up to sign Moustakas to a long-term deal at this point? The Mutts signed Frazier, the Angels signed Cozart, the Indians are moving Ramirez back to 3B and playing Kipnis at 2B, the Giants traded for Longoria, the Padres traded for Headley (and blew all their money on Hosmer), etc..
The Braves and Yankees would love to have him on a short-term deal, but don't seem to be interested otherwise. There's always a chance someone grabs him when no one expects it, sure, but it's awfully hard to find that team that's going to go more than 3 years or spend more than $50 million right now. Unless he suddenly finds that team, the Royals aren't getting that pick anyway.
He already turned down the Qualifying Offer to become a free-agent. That's not an option for him now.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
While there is a lot of risk due to length of contract, the AAV is reasonable and the contract is contoured in a way that reflects his expected production on a year-to-year basis. It does set San Diego up in a position to trade a corner outfielder at some point.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
He will have those 3 draft picks. There is something to be said for going that route.
Surely you don't believe that choice was made by the GM rather than by ownership.
When all the wannabe GMs on this message board would've chosen to sell-off and rebuild regardless of backlash from the fans, it's comical to believe that people who are actually charged with making those decisions for a living unless overruled don't see things as easily.
bravesfanMatt
Steve Harvey'd
This was unconventional but having a ton of picks in a loaded draft may be a smart move. And he still has some talent he could trade.
Heyward
<B>Voted Worst Poster <br>'13, '14, '15 (Co-Winner
I wanted the Cubs guy cant think of his name right now, wasnt sure if AA was realistic but im thrilled the Braves got him.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
There are some smart teams who are willing to go that route. The Cardinals did it with Pujols and Heyward. We did rather well with the draft pick associated with Santana hitting free agency.
Heyward
<B>Voted Worst Poster <br>'13, '14, '15 (Co-Winner
If you have to sign for 50+ mil to get a pick, where is Moose going?
Giants- Longo
Angels- Cozart
Mets- Frazier
Padres- Dont have money anyone with Hosmer
Only teams maybe are Braves, Yankees. And Yankees are rumored to get Machado next winter. Braves could maybe do it for a year but Moose could just as easily sign a 1 yr deal and hit the market next winter. Options are limited for him.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
I think the Phillies are a dark horse for Moose. Maikel Franco has two plus full seasons under his belt, has yet to put up a WAR better than 1.5, and seems to be regressing. Time is coming to cut bait on him. Imagine Swanson stinks it up this year. Do you think we would be going into 2019 with him as our starting shortstop? That is where the Phillies find themselves with respect to Franco.
Nunez is going to make $4M in 2018 and has a player option for another $4M in 2019. He can make $1M more from incentives.
The Braves couldn’t beat that offer for a stopgap 3B that can also slide into the corner OF if needed.
I’m not sure they can afford someone like Dickerson or Maybin if they couldn’t afford Nunez.
The Braves couldn’t beat that offer for a stopgap 3B that can also slide into the corner OF if needed.
I’m not sure they can afford someone like Dickerson or Maybin if they couldn’t afford Nunez.
Oklahomabrave
Anytime Now Frankie...
I’m sure money is tight, but it could also be that they just wanted to save the little resources they have for someone they like better than Nunez.
They get a pick regardless of how much Mous earns in his next contract.
Guess we will see in the next couple weeks.
I have a hard time seeing how anyone available fits their stated needs any better than Nunez at 2/8
Oklahomabrave
Anytime Now Frankie...
As you mentioned at a certain price Moose is a good deal. With the lack of other suitors I’d be good waiting out that potential deal at the expense of “missing out” on Nunez.