Around the League: 2017 offseason edition / 2018 Season

Southcack77 said:
Based on what I can see from the pitch f/x data and your analysis of it, there is no evidence he is deploying a SI or at least that he is deploying a good one.

Rumors that he is experimenting with one or perhaps evidence that he has a bad one doesn't move his stock a whole lot with me.

And if we are talking about a #3 starter type at best, then I'm comfortable moving him for something substantial or something with control. I'm not real interested in moving him for situational relievers or platoon bats without control.
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Hand, Iglesias, or maybe Barraclough, sure. Britton or Moustakas, *ell no.
 
Southcack77 said:
Based on what I can see from the pitch f/x data and your analysis of it, there is no evidence he is deploying a SI or at least that he is deploying a good one.

Rumors that he is experimenting with one or perhaps evidence that he has a bad one doesn't move his stock a whole lot with me.

And if we are talking about a #3 starter type at best, then I'm comfortable moving him for something substantial or something with control. I'm not real interested in moving him for situational relievers or platoon bats without control.
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When I looked at it a month ago his SI graded out as solidly above average.

I’ll take a look at the new data if I think about it when I get back to work after the 4th.
 
I'd want a controllable RP with at least 1 more year of control after this year if we're giving something up.
 
Heyward said:
I'd want a controllable RP with at least 1 more year of control after this year if we're giving something up.
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You give up more for that extra year. Loup is a rental and would cost less than Avilan who has 1 year of additional control who in turn would cost less than Claudio who has 3 more years of control.
 
Southcack77 said:
One start has drastically raised Fried's perceived profile around here.

Maybe it should have. Dunno.
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I've been aboard the Fried train since we traded for him. But this isn't about recent performance. Fried was a top 100 prospect before the season and to this point has only improved that value. I liked Britton pre-injury, but achilles ruptures are no joke and he's currently struggling in his return from injury. There is zero way a rental RP that is struggling on his way back from a major injury is worth anything near Max Fried.
 
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Carp said:
I've been aboard the Fried train since we traded for him. But this isn't about recent performance. Fried was a top 100 prospect before the season and to this point has only improved that value. I liked Britton pre-injury, but achilles ruptures are no joke and he's currently struggling in his return from injury. There is zero way a rental RP that is struggling on his way back from a major injury is worth anything near Max Fried.
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Yeah I think people forget he was one of the Padres top prospects when the Braves traded for him. He was just coming off TJ surgery.
 
Enscheff said:
Clvderp...seriously...

Did you just quote my preseason win prediction in your sig when you predicted the same win totals?

Are you truly that mentally challenged lol?
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I absolutely did - you're the only person that will be so terribly butthurt when people point out the fact that your spreadsheet GUESSES aren't one bit more reliable than any of the ones the others of us just grabbed out of thin air.

Sucks to be so wrong, doesn't it??? The funny thing about it is that you just pointed out that if something changes and you turn out to be right, you could have saved yourself a lot of time by just tossing out a random number like I did.

Apparently I'm no more mentally challenged than you.
 
clvclv said:
I absolutely did - you're the only person that will be so terribly butthurt when people point out the fact that your spreadsheet GUESSES aren't one bit more reliable than any of the ones the others of us just grabbed out of thin air.

Sucks to be so wrong, doesn't it??? The funny thing about it is that you just pointed out that if something changes and you turn out to be right, you could have saved yourself a lot of time by just tossing out a random number like I did.

Apparently I'm no more mentally challenged than you.
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Bro... you seriously need to give it up...
 
clvclv said:
I absolutely did - you're the only person that will be so terribly butthurt when people point out the fact that your spreadsheet GUESSES aren't one bit more reliable than any of the ones the others of us just grabbed out of thin air.

Sucks to be so wrong, doesn't it??? The funny thing about it is that you just pointed out that if something changes and you turn out to be right, you could have saved yourself a lot of time by just tossing out a random number like I did.

Apparently I'm no more mentally challenged than you.
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The dumb is strong with this one.
 
Bleacher Reports guess to what a Braves trade for deGrom would look like:

Trade Package

RHP Kyle Wright (No. 2 ATL prospect, No. 25 MLB prospect)

With a 6'4", 200-pound frame and a four-pitch mix that has a chance to be above-average or better across the board, Wright has all the makings of a future ace.

The No. 5 pick in the 2017 draft opened the season in Double-A, and he's gone 5-7 with a 4.18 ERA and 89 strikeouts in 88.1 innings—strong results considering how aggressively he's been pushed.

Wright might have the highest ceiling in a deep stable of Atlanta pitching prospects and he's a viable blockbuster centerpiece.



LHP Luiz Gohara (No. 3 ATL prospect, No. 41 MLB prospect)

Few left-handed pitching prospects have the pure stuff of Gohara. He can touch triple-digits with his fastball and backs it with a wipeout slider and an improving changeup.

The continued improvement of his changeup and overall command will determine his ultimate ceiling, but power lefties don't grow on trees, and worst-case scenario, he'd be a major weapon out of the bullpen.

High-floor starter Kolby Allard could also be a fit as the second piece of this package. Gohara offers more upside, though.



OF Cristian Pache (No. 8 ATL prospect, No. 99 MLB prospect)

Now that Ronald Acuna has moved to the majors, Pache is the top outfield prospect in the system and a precocious prospect in his own right.

Still just 19, he's already playing at High-A Florida, where he's hitting .270 with 24 extra-base hits. His speed and defense are his best present tools, but he has a chance as a plus hitter as well, with at least some playable gap power.

According to MLB.com, he has a chance to become an "All-Star-caliber player," and that's the type of upside the Mets should be looking for.



RHP Touki Toussaint (No. 10 ATL prospect)

Drafted No. 16 overall in 2014, Toussaint was one of the youngest players in the class and he just turned 22 last month.

MLB.com wrote: "The Braves feel Toussaint grew more emotionally than perhaps any other starting pitching prospect in their system in 2017. He came to baseball, and pitching, a bit later than many, which might be a reason why adjustments have taken longer for him. He can get by with improper mechanics, but when he is in sync, he can dominate, and the Braves feel his athleticism will help him get there eventually, with a ceiling of a No. 2 starter."

He's still a work in progress, but the results are starting to match his upside, as he's gone 4-6 with a 2.93 ERA, 1.19 WHIP and 107 strikeouts in 86 innings this season at Double-A Mississippi.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ges-and-landing-spots-for-jacob-degrom#slide1
 
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