Braves extent Ozzie!

Hard to feel bad for guys that are seeing more money than ill ever dream of but i kind of do.

Something feels dirty abouy these deals.
 
passan saying he's heard from execs and other agents that are calling it the worst deal in history for a player - no hyperbole.
 
Southcack77 said:
I wonder which side is the most reluctant to do an extension on Swanson.
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Probably both. The Braves wanna make sure his start isn’t a fluke and Dansby wants to turn in a season that he thinks he’s capable of and cashing in. If he has another down season and the wrist is still bothering him I don’t think they’ll make him an extension offer.
 
who is ozzie's agent? this is staggering. it's impossible to overstate how bad it is. this is theft.
 
Keep in mind the additional leverage these extensions give the Braves in the future...

Albies will be looking at being horribly underpaid for 4 FA seasons in his late 20s. When those years come, the Braves will have tremendous leverage to renegotiate his contract to get him more cash up front in exchange for even more discount FA seasons.

The Acuna and Albies extensions are so bad for the players they may have given the Braves leverage to control both players for their entire career at a 50% discount.

I don't think the MLBPA is going to be very happy with these guys.
 
thethe said:
Hard to feel bad for guys that are seeing more money than ill ever dream of but i kind of do.

Something feels dirty about these deals.
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I still think a huge part is that Acuna and Albies want to play together and they seem to really enjoy playing on the Braves. It also appears the Braves window of winning is fairly large. Honestly is a little refreshing to see some players not making it all about the money.
 
tululush said:
Ahh gotcha. So it's essentially 8/39 and then we can give him another 3 million in picking up his option which would put it at 8/42 and then have the option the following year for buying him out for 4 million or giving him 7 million to stay.
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No.

The first 7 years, he will be paid $31. Then if they were to buy him out after that, it would add $4 million, which is why it's being reported as 7/$35 guaranteed. If they pick up the option on year 8, it adds $3 million, making it 8/$38 million. If they buy him out after that year, it becomes 8/$42, or if they pick up the option it adds $3 more and becomes 9/$45.

So they will pay him either $35 million over 7, $42 million over 8(once they pick up the 8th year option, he will either get an additional $4 million for the buyout on top of that or the full $7 for year 9), or $45 million over 9.
 
smootness said:
No.

The first 7 years, he will be paid $31. Then if they were to buy him out after that, it would add $4 million, which is why it's being reported as 7/$35 guaranteed. If they pick up the option on year 8, it adds $3 million, making it 8/$38 million. If they buy him out after that year, it becomes 8/$42, or if they pick up the option it adds $3 more and becomes 9/$45.

So they will pay him either $35 million over 7, $42 million over 8(once they pick up the 8th year option, he will either get an additional $4 million for the buyout on top of that or the full $7 for year 9), or $45 million over 9.
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Yeah...this is different than Acuna's option as he only has a buyout for the first option at 10 million. There is no buyout on the 2nd option.
 
Orphan Black said:
I still think a huge part is that Acuna and Albies want to play together and they seem to really enjoy playing on the Braves. It also appears the Braves window of winning is fairly large. Honestly is a little refreshing to see some players not making it all about the money.
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Agreed. I'm conflicted when we complain about greedy athletes, and then saying Albies and Acuna got ripped off.

These extensions may have allowed the Braves to punch well above their weight in payroll capacity.
 
Enscheff said:
Agreed. I'm conflicted when we complain about greedy athletes, and then saying Albies and Acuna got ripped off.

These extensions may have allowed the Braves to punch well above their weight in payroll capacity.
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I mean making 7 million dollars even one time is life changing so it's all relative. But man alive, I do feel sorry for how much money is left on the table in these deals.
 
Guys you don’t get it. These guys came from poor areas most likely. This kind of money changes their lives and their families for decades. If I have little to nothing and someone offers me $35 mil now or gamble for more...I take it.

Someone like Dansby who got a big signing bonus and comes from probably a decently well off family will probably bet on himself. He can make that gamble. Acuna and Ozzie can’t. This is their chance to make life changing money and if God forbid they have a injury that ruins their career...they are taken care of. That security is priceless when you have ZERO to fall back on.
 
Yeah it's hard to argue why Ozzie would sign for that low amount.

I'm still stunned he did, happy but feel bad for him in a way even though he's guaranteed a lot of money.
 
So the Braves have locked up Acuna and Albies through their age 30 season for about half of what the Phillies are paying Harper.
 
Enscheff said:
Agreed. I'm conflicted when we complain about greedy athletes, and then saying Albies and Acuna got ripped off.

These extensions may have allowed the Braves to punch well above their weight in payroll capacity.
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I don't ever complain about an athlete's 'greed'. It's either going in their pockets or the owners' pockets, and I'd rather it go in the players' pockets.

But man, I really do feel for them right now. To be fair, like you said, what we will probably do is eventually pay them more and tack on more years to the back end. But that still reduces their ceiling on earnings.

But hey, some players are ok with life-changing money and don't need generational-altering money, and want to enjoy what they do with no worry of risk. And I can't fault them for that. It seems like they could have gotten at least much higher option years had they pushed harder, but who knows.
 
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