He was always a one year place holder to me. This was a "thank you" hiring, and they will keep him in the front office somewhere. Snit is a good guy, I would rather have someone else.
Dansby being sent down to AAA
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He was always a one year place holder to me. This was a "thank you" hiring, and they will keep him in the front office somewhere. Snit is a good guy, I would rather have someone else.
Southcack77
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You changed the subject on me.
I would be perfectly fine with Kemp sitting regularly. I think that would be a great idea. Markakis too.
Brandon Phillips is hitting .250 in July with a 9% K rate and a lower than usual BABIP. No real indication that he's going through much more than a period of bad fortune. I have no objection to his getting regular rest either, but you could hardly make a case for sending him to the minors.
Dansby's problem is that he was terrible in April and May and was terrible in the games immediately preceding his "benching." And terrible after it.
He is a young player who could be sent down. I don't have a problem with it at all.
bravesfanMatt
Steve Harvey'd
I had no problem with sending Dansby down. It should have been done sooner.. my problem is benching him for 'struggling' and not being consistent... They should have sent him down when Johan started to get hot. just let him know they want him to work on things and he will be back up soon. but instead they let him play 1 out of every 3 games and then sent him down arbitrarily last night. I mean, why last night. Who is killing it that needs to come up.. It doesn't make any sense..
Julio3000
<B>A Chip Off the Old Rock</B>
You can spin it that way if you want, but he ended June badly and started July the same way. Further, he was having bad ABs and making poor contact. That's borne out in the decline of his exit velocity numbers. Let's not brightside it: he's been one of the worst position players in baseball this year.
I think it's likely is that Dansby is going to be what he is going to be regardless of the organization's mishandling of him. I also seriously doubt that he's an attitude problem. The original sin here was promoting him and installing him as the starting shortstop when he hadn't had enough pro ABs.
Yup. Had his performance warranted it he should of been promoted at some point this season. But his promotion wasn't a purely baseball decision.
Southcack77
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I just can't fault the front office for sitting a guy that was one of the worst position players in baseball at the plate.
you don't just get to start every game forever because the Braves wanted you to succeed and sell tickets. Sending him down is the right move I think. He needs to work on something or get shaken into taking a better approach - something. It ain't happening for him in the majors and the Braves are right to look at other assets to see what they have.
bravesfanMatt
Steve Harvey'd
And his play warranted a demotion.. but that didn't happen right either. I still see no reason to demote him now 3 weeks after he should have. What about yesterday's game screamed... hey lets send Dans down..
bravesfanMatt
Steve Harvey'd
Correct.. then send him down July 5th.. June 1st.. May 22nd.. Why yesterday after a 2-4 day in one of his few starts.
Great. And in the 10 games prior to that stretch, he was 13/41 (.317) with an 11% K rate and a 7% walk rate. I don't know what good it does to pick out any single stretch of games. He was horrific in April and we let him play through that. Then he was much, much better (still not super great, obviously, I get that) through May and June, but because he had a rough stretch for a week and a half, we decided to start sitting him?
It just doesn't make any sense. His year was trending upward. There will always be stretches of poor play and stretches of much better play. But his overall year was still trending very much upward. From an OPS of .433 at the end of April to .635 at the time we started sitting him. Why all the sudden make that decision?
I get this, and that's fine, though at this point if you send him down, just leave him down the rest of the year.
I'm not arguing this was some disastrous move that will forever change his career trajectory. But I don't like having a manager who can't see the forest for the trees.
It makes perfect sense...
Snit, like all stone aged managers, thinks he can identify the hot hand. They thought they were contenders this year, so Snit was trying to win games by starting the hot hand, Camargo.
Now they have finally conceded this season, and made the choice to send Swanson back down.
They aren't exactly doing anything according to a long term plan. The plan was always "win in 2017". It was not lip service.
Gotta figure the decision had already been made before yesterday. Probably the same with having Blair start yesterday - his schedule matched up the closest with Garcia's, so they flew him out to Los Angeles. With the day off tomorrow, kinda have to figure Bowman's right about seeing Sims in the spot next week.
Eh, I agree with the first part, I just don't like it.
I don't agree that they've been fully behind a 'win in 2017' model the entire time. Name the prospects we've sold. Name the big moves we've made. HO and Kemp were mistakes, but where are all these moves designed to put a competitive team on the field in 2017?
I feel like you created a reality in your head that you didn't like, then continue to criticize them under that same reality, even if it isn't true. You said it was dumb to try to compete by 2017, so you killed them for saying that. Then, when they clearly didn't put a team on the field ready to contend in 2017, you said the FO wants to contend, they just don't know how to put an MLB team together. Or they just didn't actually think it was wise to throw assets into trying to contend in 2017, yet you continue to act as though that was their goal?
Southcack77
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No he was horrible in May too. He just wasn't as horrible as he was in April.
the "benching" that he got in July after an extended period of futility running over from May still let him get the large majority of the at bats and he was still horrible.
He doesn't deserve to be in the Majors and they gave him several miles of rope to prove otherwise, but he utterly failed to do it.
It's not the end of the world.
He was below-average in May. He wasn't horrible.
Of course it isn't the end of the world.
Southcack77
Well-known member
I'm not sure where the line between horrible and below average is. He hit .216, struck out 25% of the time and had a wRC+ of 73. That's honestly probably about right for him about now. April was unlucky, June was lucky. May was pretty much who he probably is.
Is Jace still on the team somewhere? He deserves another chance.
msstate7
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The FO making Jace play SS for an extended period would be a way to guarantee snitker leaves after this season. We'd suck big time
bravesfanMatt
Steve Harvey'd
So then we want Jace at SS.. right..