David Price expects to be dealt

I've looked at catchers with high similarity scores to McCann. The risk of decline really kicks in around age 33 or 34 for players of that type. McCann is 29. A four year deal would cover ages 30-33. I don't see that as very risky.

Plus I think McCann will leave some money on the table to stay with the Braves. If not I'm ready to move on.

I'm not as optimistic as you. Mac is showing a lot of cracks in his armor and a move to the AL might be in his best interests.
 
Yeah, I'd rather invest in some hitting. I can do Minor, Teheran, Beachy as a top 3.

I just don't know how to get it. Probably stuck with Uptons and Uggla. Thus, without really having a makeover, the only 2 spots for an elite hitter are 3B and C.

I would strongly consider signing Salty and Infante and trading for Headley if we can somehow get rid of Uggla and sell high on CJ and fit it into the budget.

Heyward
Infante
Freeman
J-Up
Headley
Salty
BeeJ
Simmons

Yeah, it'll never happen.
 
I don't think the Braves want to spend any money on catcher honestly. THey are going to have to eat money at 2B but hopefully LaStella can be that guy.

I'd be interested in Headley is he would come cheap. There is still plenty of risk with him and I'm not sure why you are convinced he is a stud.
 
Anyone that can put up any kind of respectable numbers in Petco is a fantastic hitter. And he should come cheaper bc of his wrist/hand injury from last year. Now is the time to make the move for him.

Plus at the very least he gives you outstanding defense at the hot corner so you aren't paying a guy and needing the guy to be an offensive star to be worth the contract.
 
You think you could get David Price for 3 prospects, none of which are top 50 prospects?

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/prospects/watch/y2013/

Lol really?! They are they are the absolute worse at ranking prospects! Also Sickels and Callis(before he left BA) both said that Sims was a definite Top 50 prospect and Wood would've been Too 50 possibly Top 25 had he finished the season in the minors. Bethancourt was much better with the bat this season and has worked his way into the Top 100 as well.
 
Sure if we could sell high on Johnson and buy low on Headley then I would be all for it. I just worry what he is going to want in terms of a contract considering at least Johnson is cost controlled.
 
I'm not as optimistic as you. Mac is showing a lot of cracks in his armor and a move to the AL might be in his best interests.

Every player is unique. But the modern catchers with high similarity scores to McCann (Lance Parrish, Gary Carter, Bill Freehan) didn't decline sharply until age 33 or later.

By the way Yogi Berra is #5 on the list of players most similar to Mac through age 29. Pretty good company.
 
What are these cracks in his armor?

Setting aside 2012 because that was a complete disaster due to injuries his offensive production has declined slightly each year for a long time. Will that continue? Only time will tell...

Obviously he is a very good catcher but does that contribute to his decline in offensive production?
 
McCann OPS

2009 (age 25) .834
2010 (26) .828
2011 (27) .817
2012 (28) .698
2013 (29) .798

I think a reasonable projection for McCann is an average OPS in the .750-800 range during his age 30-32 season. Then the uncertainty grows with greater risk of rapid decline.
 
McCann OPS

2009 (age 25) .834
2010 (26) .828
2011 (27) .817
2012 (28) .698
2013 (29) .798

I think a reasonable projection for McCann is an average OPS in the .750-800 range during his age 30-32 season. Then the uncertainty grows with greater risk of rapid decline.

The problem is that I can see getting that type of offensive production from Gattis for league min / arby 1& 2 for the next 3 seasons. I just don't see how its a wise investment to lock up Mac.
 
Im starting to really hope and pray we dont sign McCann. It just doesnt make any sense with Gattis, Laird, and Bethancourt to re-sign him. He seems to disappear in September as well hitting wise. Just go with Gattis/Laird/Bethancourt at catcher, make a play for Price, and go from there.

I wouldnt mind Headley either, but im a believer that Chris Johnsons season wasnt a fluke, and id love to have him around for the long haul.
 
The problem is that I can see getting that type of offensive production from Gattis for league min / arby 1& 2 for the next 3 seasons. I just don't see how its a wise investment to lock up Mac.

If we sign Mac, I would not hold on to Gattis. At least not for more than one more season. I think some American League team will see tremendous value in Gattis.
 
If we sign Mac, I would not hold on to Gattis. At least not for more than one more season. I think some American League team will see tremendous value in Gattis.

The DH is coming to the National League. In the meantime, the man can catch. We should let him be our catcher for the next two years while slowly working CB in.
 
The DH is coming to the National League. In the meantime, the man can catch. We should let him be our catcher for the next two years while slowly working CB in.

I also think the DH is coming to the NL, so signing Mac may not be the worst move since he can likely DH for the Braves in a few years anyways. If the DH doesn't come to the NL, Mac can be traded to an AL team if he can no longer catch.

However, I still think Gattis and Laird are perfectly capable of reasonably matching anything Mac can do at a fraction of the cost. Especially if Gattis takes the next step offensively like he showed in the NLCS. And I'm not talking about his postseason numbers. I'm talking about how he was a tough out almost every single AB against top shelf pitching.
 
I also think the DH is coming to the NL, so signing Mac may not be the worst move since he can likely DH for the Braves in a few years anyways. If the DH doesn't come to the NL, Mac can be traded to an AL team if he can no longer catch.

However, I still think Gattis and Laird are perfectly capable of reasonably matching anything Mac can do at a fraction of the cost. Especially if Gattis takes the next step offensively like he showed in the NLCS. And I'm not talking about his postseason numbers. I'm talking about how he was a tough out almost every single AB against top shelf pitching.

For me its all about getting equal production at virtually no cost. Its a no brainer. We all love Mac but good organizations say goodbye to their players at the right time. This is the right time.

I'm with you on Gattis. He is still developing and a whole offseason of study and work could make a big difference for him. Also, he played a lot of winter ball last year. I think the extended rest will do wonders.
 
The only way signing Mac makes sense is if Gattis is used in a trade to fix 2B (I agree with wholeheartedly) or to bring in an Ace (I don't agree with). At that point signing Mac is almost mandatory.

Teams like the Braves have to be smart about allocating their resources. It is not smart to spend 10%-15% of the payroll on a position where you can get comparable production for peanuts. So use that money to fix 2B where the production is less than zero.
 
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