David Price expects to be dealt

[Heyward]

Headley, I'd like him but unless he signs an extension, no thanks.

3 years of CJ > 1 year of Headley.

Same thing on Price except I've said a thousand times we don't have the ammo to get him unless we trade them someone like Heyward in a deal for him and he signs an extension with us. He's probably better than any P on our staff but we don't have the trade chips for him.

 

[weso1]

MInor could.

But, in no shape or form was he better last year. Or really that close.

This past season Minor was slightly better than Price was, imo. That's all I've stated.

 

[gilesfan]

I could go through and post the stats, but I don't have the time. Thats simply not true.

 

[thethe]

I'll give up rights and ownership of this website to Tampa Bay if they want to give us Price.

Thats an obvious overpay.

 

[weso1]

I could go through and post the stats, but I don't have the time. Thats simply not true.

Minor's WAR: 3.1
Price's WAR: 2.8

That's from ESPN.

 

[gilesfan]

I've never hear of ESPN putting out a WAR figure.

 

[weso1]

Maybe I went to ASPN.com or something when I looked it up.

 

[emk418]

I think Matt Garza would be the only free agent SP I'm interested in.

 

[yeezus]

Minor's WAR: 3.1
Price's WAR: 2.8

That's from ESPN.

ESPN war isn't as good as fangraphs.
Fangraphs had Price at 4.4, Minor 3.4.

 

[yeezus]

This past season Minor was slightly better than Price was, imo. That's all I've stated.

And that's really not debatable.

 

[50PoundHead]

I think Matt Garza would be the only free agent SP I'm interested in.

I watched him in Minnesota. It's price-dependent, but for what he is likely to get, I don't think I'd be interested. Guy is a bit of a goof and supposedly not good in the locker room.

 

[weso1]

ESPN war isn't as good as fangraphs.
Fangraphs had Price at 4.4, Minor 3.4.

No way Price was a whole game better than Minor this past season. That alone makes me throw out fangraph's WAR. They're obviously overcompensating some factor. I know Price has to deal with the DH, but still.

Looks like Bref and ESPN are the same with WAR. Both have the same number.

 

[cajunrevenge]

Price was pretty bad early in the season before going on the DL. He had a 5.25 ERA through 9 starts then went on the DL. When he came back from the DL he had a 2.26 ERA in 18 starts. I tend to when a starter has a decrease in velocity but I would bet a lot of that came early in the season as he tried to pitch through an injury. He is every bit the ace someone like Wainwright is. I like Medlen/Minor but they look a lot better as the 2nd and 3rd starter than 1 and 2.

 

[Carp]

WAR for pitchers is a pretty sorry stat anyways. But fangraphs is beyond terrible. I would agree that Price was slightly better than Minor ladt yr. But over a full Win better is just stupid.

 

[zitothebrave]

WAR for pitchers is a pretty sorry stat anyways. But fangraphs is beyond terrible. I would agree that Price was slightly better than Minor ladt yr. But over a full Win better is just stupid.

 

[BRule]

This past season Minor was slightly better than Price was, imo. That's all I've stated.

Once again, how?

I've already posted the stats and Price is better in all the big ones.

 

[zitothebrave]

Once again, how?

I've already posted the stats and Price is better in all the big ones.

I think Minor gets a slight edge because he pitched more innings. But pound per pound per start, Price was better.

 

[weso1]

What do you mean once again, how? I've already answered. Minor had a higher WAR according to Bref... that's what I'm going by.

 

[JohnAdcox]

I think Minor gets a slight edge because he pitched more innings. But pound per pound per start, Price was better.

That actually makes sense to me. I'd missed the innings pitched.

 

[BRule]

What do you mean once again, how? I've already answered. Minor had a higher WAR according to Bref... that's what I'm going by.

So your reasoning is based off of ONE stat, a stat that most people agree isn't as accurate as fangraphs. Got it.