Economics Thread

Not always.

For example, after peaking near 1500 in August 2000 the S&P500 dropped to around 830 February 2003 and didn't return to its previous peak until May 2007.

There are other exceptions. The October 1973 peak was not seen again until January 1980.

That was due to systemic issues within the financial markets (CDO on sub prime mortgages). This was just due to an external event that was not lasting.
 
And of course the September 1929 peak (I'm going by monthly closes, the actual peak was in October) was not seen again until September 1954.
 
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VP tucker sounds fantastic.

4 for Trump

8 for Tucker

8 for Vance

LFG!
 
MAGAnomics is incoherent.

I’m aware that you just care about the the output of a formula that you’ve been programmed to learn is the only thing that matters.

You benefit from the system so it’s hard to see how it fails so many people.
 
I’m aware that you just care about the the output of a formula that you’ve been programmed to learn is the only thing that matters.

You benefit from the system so it’s hard to see how it fails so many people.

The system has failed many people. MAGA and I agree on that, but it's also where we depart.
 
The system has failed many people. MAGA and I agree on that, but it's also where we depart.

You want more libertarian policies as it comes to economic changes. That will make things even worse.

I’m sorry but someone that doesn’t understand trade with a communist dictatorship being a problem is never going to see what the people of the west need to be happy and free.
 
You want more libertarian policies as it comes to economic changes. That will make things even worse.

I’m sorry but someone that doesn’t understand trade with a communist dictatorship being a problem is never going to see what the people of the west need to be happy and free.

"Libertarian economics" didn't lead to a $33.84T national debt, unfunded entitlement programs, rampant crony capitalism, rent seekers, etc.

If Trump, Tucker and co. can't diagnose the disease, I'm sure as hell not going to trust them to find the cure.
 
"Libertarian economics" didn't lead to a $33.84T national debt, unfunded entitlement programs, rampant crony capitalism, rent seekers, etc.

If Trump, Tucker and co. can't diagnose the disease, I'm sure as hell not going to trust them to find the cure.

A hands off approach which led to concentrations of wealth and power absolutely led to this.

This lack of understanding of how your policies lead to this result is the difference in classroom depictions and real world results.
 
A hands off approach which led to concentrations of wealth and power absolutely led to this.

This lack of understanding of how your policies lead to this result is the difference in classroom depictions and real world results.

A "hands off approach" ...OK
 
A "hands off approach" ...OK

Yes a hands off approach leads to coercion of politicians.

Your approach has an underlying belief that people are moral and will make good decisions. That doesn’t happen.

Your system leads to what we are seeing. I know it’s difficult for you to come to grips with that but it is the truth.

If you disagree tell me how your system accounts for collusion between businesses and government?
 
Incredible that libertarians get blamed for ruining the economy AND if you vote for them you are throwing away your vote because they can’t win elections.
 
Yes a hands off approach leads to coercion of politicians.

Your approach has an underlying belief that people are moral and will make good decisions. That doesn’t happen.

Your system leads to what we are seeing. I know it’s difficult for you to come to grips with that but it is the truth.

If you disagree tell me how your system accounts for collusion between businesses and government?

Nothing your claiming changes under MAGAnomics. How does MAGA account for collusion between businesses and government? How does MAGA deal with the inherent problem that people aren't "moral, good decision makers?" (your claim).

Donald Trump and Tucker Carlson sitting in the Oval Office, picking winners and losers?
 
Incredible that libertarians get blamed for ruining the economy AND if you vote for them you are throwing away your vote because they can’t win elections.

It’s not their fault really. They are just naive. The building blocks of a functioning economy need to be libertarian in nature but with controls in place to stop the inevitable results.
 
Nothing your claiming changes under MAGAnomics. How does MAGA account for collusion between businesses and government? How does MAGA deal with the inherent problem that people aren't "moral, good decision makers?" (your claim).

Donald Trump and Tucker Carlson sitting in the Oval Office, picking winners and losers?

I think anything is better than just putting your head in the sand and pretending it’s not happening.
 
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