Economics Thread

[nsacpi]

ok bud - We will see how much the US thrives as deporations and immigration policy continues.

I have a feeling we will be just fine.....

The economy will have its ups and downs with and without restrictive immigration policies. But the existing body of research that focuses on the effects of immigration finds that immigrants are mostly complements to native-born workers. In other words, increases in immigration increase demand for native-born workers. And decreases in immigration decrease demand for native-born workers. It is therefore not surprising that the restrictions we've seen in the past year have coincided with an increase in the native-born unemployment rate. There have been other factors at work as well, such as tariffs, that also work to increase unemployment over the past year.

 

[Tapate50]

define restrictive and how its been in the last say, 4 years.

 

[nsacpi]

if you don't believe me ask grok:

what does the research show on whether on balance immigrant workers are complements or substitutes for native-born workers.

On balance, the large body of economic research concludes that immigrant workers are more complements than perfect substitutes for native-born workers. This means immigrants typically do not compete one-for-one for the same jobs; instead, they often fill different roles, fill labor shortages, enable natives to specialize in higher-value tasks, and boost overall productivity and demand—which tends to protect or even slightly raise native wages and employment in the long run.

 

[nsacpi]

grok's answer is much longer but i don't want to tax anyone's attention span. The first paragraph suffices.

 

[nsacpi]

on a slightly different note:

job growth in 2023: 2.5 million

job growth in 2024: 1.5 million

job growth in 2025: 181 thousand

 

[thethe]

The economy will have its ups and downs with and without restrictive immigration policies. But the existing body of research that focuses on the effects of immigration finds that immigrants are mostly complements to native-born workers. In other words, increases in immigration increase demand for native-born workers. And decreases in immigration decrease demand for native-born workers. It is therefore not surprising that the restrictions we've seen in the past year have coincided with an increase in the native-born unemployment rate. There have been other factors at work as well, such as tariffs, that also work to increase unemployment over the past year.

Yes - The top 1000 provide TONS of value.

We should keep those.

 

[nsacpi]

God bless the top 1000. They do great thangs. But it is the remaining 50 million of us collectively who carry greater weight when it comes to boosting the economy and increasing the number of jobs for native-born workers.

 

[nsacpi]

Trump is the most spectacular own goal scorer in the annals of American policy making.