GDT: 07/20/2013: Braves at White Sox

skidlee said:
I guess you guys are the ones who keep saying the braves farm sucks

This isn't the trade deadline 2 years ago. These teams can't get a pick from the these guys. The price of trades is not has high has it once was.
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It doesn't suck but the cost for frontline pitching is reallllllllly expensive.

I mean ****, it cost the O's Strop and Arrieta for Feldman.

But I'm sure we can get Santana whose been great this year and Garza who has pitched well without parting with some top notch prospects.
 
AUTiger7222 said:
Paul Maholm's last 16 starts counting today, 92 IP, 114 H, 61 R, 55 ER, 28 BB, 57 SO, 12 HR, 5.38 ERA. Oh and that's 5 2/3 IP a start.

You seriously think that's fine?
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So much for the he only had one bad month nonsense. Or the "you don't play 162 games on the road" nonsense. Maholm's been trending down for a while, we need to cut our losses and find another starter. Wood, then Beachy in a couple weeks.
 
skidlee said:
I guess you guys are the ones who keep saying the braves farm sucks

This isn't the trade deadline 2 years ago. These teams can't get a pick from the these guys. The price of trades is not has high has it once was.
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Lipka, Northcraft, Terdo have a good amount of value? I'm sorry, but I really don't agree. They are about average prospects at the moment.
 
All I will say is I don't see us winning a WS with this rotation.

And yes I know the playoffs are a crap shoot
 
JusticeForAll23 said:
Well, that's depressing. I was out running some errands, check my phone for an update and see we're up 2-0. Check it a little while later when I'm on my way home and see we're up 4-0. Get home, in a good mood thinking we're going to come out of the All-Star break and put together a little winning streak (instead of this win one, lose one, win one, lose one nonsense that it feels like we've been doing for a month now), turn the game on and see we're down 9-4.

Talk about a way to turn a great Saturday into a really bad one in a hurry. I've reached my limit with Maholm, and it's only made worse because of Medlen and Huddy's inconsistencies and struggles. If Maholm was the only one, wouldn't hate him so much right now.
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Tim Hudson is fine. He's got a 2.77 ERA in his last 9 starts and has gone 7 innings in 7 of those starts. People need to GTFO with the Tim Hudson crap!
 
Heyward said:
It doesn't suck but the cost for frontline pitching is reallllllllly expensive.

I mean ****, it cost the O's Strop and Arrieta for Feldman.

But I'm sure we can get Santana whose been great this year and Garza who has pitched well without parting with some top notch prospects.
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Exactly, all three of them will cost more in terms of value/talent than Feldman, and look what he cost.
 
AUTiger7222 said:
I need to look at things in more context? He got off to a terrific start in his first 4 starts. The numbers I posted are what he has done since then. What more context do you need? Sorry that you think Maholm's fine when he clearly isn't. And why do you think Alex Wood is incapable of averaging 5 2/3 IP a start while giving up less runs? Why. What did Wood do in his bullpen work and that makes you so certain it's impossible?
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Impossible? No one said that. But I am aware of how seldom young pitchers come up and pitch deep immediately. Look at Beachy. Minor. Teheran. It takes time, even for good pitchers.
 
Heyward said:
It doesn't suck but the cost for frontline pitching is reallllllllly expensive.

I mean ****, it cost the O's Strop and Arrieta for Feldman.

But I'm sure we can get Santana whose been great this year and Garza who has pitched well without parting with some top notch prospects.
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Strop, a decent reliever and Arrieta, a terrible starter.
 
Dalyn said:
Impossible? No one said that. But I am aware of how seldom young pitchers come up and pitch deep immediately. Look at Beachy. Minor. Teheran. It takes time, even for good pitchers.
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Pitching 5 2/3 IP isn't deep dude. Pitching consistently into the 7th is pitching deep.
 
So skid, you think Terdo, Northcraft, Lipka is getting Santana/Garza.

I want some of what you're smoking cuz that ain't happening.
 
JusticeForAll23 said:
Well, that's depressing. I was out running some errands, check my phone for an update and see we're up 2-0. Check it a little while later when I'm on my way home and see we're up 4-0. Get home, in a good mood thinking we're going to come out of the All-Star break and put together a little winning streak (instead of this win one, lose one, win one, lose one nonsense that it feels like we've been doing for a month now), turn the game on and see we're down 9-4.

Talk about a way to turn a great Saturday into a really bad one in a hurry. I've reached my limit with Maholm, and it's only made worse because of Medlen and Huddy's inconsistencies and struggles. If Maholm was the only one, wouldn't hate him so much right now.
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We've been hovering around .500 all season save for two weeks.
 
I wonder if Hale will be held out of his start in Gwinnett tonight. The pen is being worked hard tonight. If Maholm has to go to the DL, it would make sense to bring Hale up.
 
nsacpi said:
I wonder if Hale will be held out of his start in Gwinnett tonight. The pen is being worked hard tonight. If Maholm has to go to the DL, it would make sense to bring Hale up.
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Good question, esp. since Hale is on the 40-man roster already.
 
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