GDT: 11/3/20, Election Day, Donald J. Trump vs. Joseph R. Biden

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I guess the game plan for the democrats is to ignore all confirmed irregularities and fraud.

Cool
 
Burden of proof is on your side comrade. Dont blame us for not giving people who have no credibility whatsoever the benefit of the doubt. If you find fraud provable in a court of law we support locking up whoever did it and fixing whatever error they caused.
 
I guess the game plan for the democrats is to ignore all confirmed irregularities and fraud.

Cool

If they're willing to burn down cities, make up russian conspiracies, destroy the life of a 16 year old kid, cause a justice of gang rape, kill cops...
 
So you're solution to grab more undecided, independent voters is go further left.... Great plan, lol. There is a reason why the Dems chose Biden as their candidate and it isn't because he leaned far to the left.

It was the wrong strategy, as down-ballot races / ballot initiatives pretty clearly show.

I mean, take a look:

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If Biden squeaks out a win, it'll be a repudiation of Donald J Trump, and nothing more.

Democrats need to get a lot more progressive, and fast, if they want to abjure a second-coming of right-wing nationalism—one which will doubtless be a lot more competent than Trump’s formulation.
 
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tell me again how progressive policies are not popular with voters.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campai...ers-after-fox-news-host-asks-if-theyd-support


seems once policy is explained sans noise of socialism,communism or some such idiocy people respond positively.


Despite criticism, a number of polls have shown both Democratic and Republican voters support Medicare for All. One such poll conducted by The Hill in October showed a majority of Republicans supported single-payer health care. Another poll conducted in January showed that 56 percent of American voters supported such an insurance system.
 
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If they're willing to burn down cities, make up russian conspiracies, destroy the life of a 16 year old kid, cause a justice of gang rape, kill cops...

We are seeing in real time the reason mail in ballots were pushed by the left.
 
Arizona is ... weird. Just a state in flux, without a clear identity at this point—which is one thing I rather like about it.

Beyond that, I think one thing that accounts for said anomaly is that Martha McSally was fairly unpopular, even with conservatives. Don't forget, she was appointed to her seat after losing a previous Senate race to Kyrsten Sinema. So she's successfully failed to win either of Arizona's Senate seats.

Mark Kelly is a pretty fabulous candidate. Really perfect for the state. Ran a really smart campaign on FB that reached a lot of trumpy voters.
 
It was the wrong strategy, as down-ballot races / ballot initiatives pretty clearly show.

I mean, take a look:

[tw]1324784432763539456[/tw]

If Biden squeaks out a win, it'll be a repudiation of Donald J Trump, and nothing more.

Democrats need to get a lot more progressive, and fast, if they want to abjure a second-coming of right-wing nationalism—one which will doubtless be a lot more competent than Trump’s formulation.

At this point I think this is your only option but I’d suspect that any additional enthusiasm will be more than offset with how many moderates are alienated and move to the new populist party.
 
It was the wrong strategy, as down-ballot races / ballot initiatives pretty clearly show.

I mean, take a look:

[tw]1324784432763539456[/tw]

If Biden squeaks out a win, it'll be a repudiation of Donald J Trump, and nothing more.

Democrats need to get a lot more progressive, and fast, if they want to abjure a second-coming of right-wing nationalism—one which will doubtless be a lot more competent than Trump’s formulation.

That is some really, really terrible analysis in that tweet. The millions of caveats he mentions completely robs his conclusion of any validity. It's like he didn't even consider that the more conservative the district, the more pressure is on the representative to vote conservative and also the greater chance that representative is going to get ousted by anyone with an R next to their name.
 
At this point I think this is your only option but I’d suspect that any additional enthusiasm will be more than offset with how many moderates are alienated and move to the new populist party.

Moving left is populist. Progressive policies are populist. Almost 70% of registered voters, regardless of party-affiliation, support Medicare for All. That's a populist policy.
 
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tell me again how progressive policies are not popular with voters.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campai...ers-after-fox-news-host-asks-if-theyd-support


seems once policy is explained sans noise of socialism,communism or some such idiocy people respond positively.

correlation doth not show causality

the confounding variable here is being in a right-leaning district

if they really wanted to the AOCs and Abby Spanbergers should be able to work out an accommodation...the same game plan does NOT work for both kinds of districts
 
Am I alone in being tired of hearing Republicans tell Democrats what they have to do to get elected ?

And even sicker than that , Democrats that listen to said Republicans
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Bear in mind Republican's best thinking and policies gave us, Donald Trump, Iraq War,{schit endless ME war,} the economic collapse of 2008, Just Say No drug war no covid response and of course no health care solutions to put on the table.
The stripping of environmental regulation, no response to rampant gun violence and last but not least a coddling of miscreant policing

Beware Republicans advising
(D) to move to moderation
 
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That is some really, really terrible analysis in that tweet. The millions of caveats he mentions completely robs his conclusion of any validity. It's like he didn't even consider that the more conservative the district, the more pressure is on the representative to vote conservative and also the greater chance that representative is going to get ousted by anyone with an R next to their name.

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In swing districts (and, I would argue, anywhere), you don't win over voters by by offering watered-down conservatism; that's how you lose to conservatives. Instead, you advocate for progressive policies that voters actually want.
 
Am I alone in being tired of hearing Republicans tell Democrats what they have to do to get elected ?

And even sicker than that , Democrats that listen to said Republicans

hey I'm a democrat now...i'm entitled to share my wisdom on the matter
 
Moving left is populist. Progressive policies are populist. Almost 70% of registered voters, regardless of party-affiliation, support Medicare for All. That's a populist policy.

Quite a few of the measures that you are pushing though end up killing legacy type jobs and that’s a majority of the voting population.
 
correlation doth not show causality

the confounding variable here is being in a right-leaning district

if they really wanted to the AOCs and Abby Spanbergers should be able to work out an accommodation...the same game plan does NOT work for both kinds of districts

Again: Medicare for All is one of the most broadly-popular policy-proposals in this country. It works pretty much regardless of district.

You're saying "correlation does not imply causation", but then you're turning around and just recycling old-saws and back-of-napkin narratives, as opposed to anything more verifiably "causal" than what 57 posted.
 
Again: Medicare for All is one of the most broadly-popular policy-proposals in this country. It works pretty much regardless of district.

You're saying "correlation does not imply causation", but then you're turning around and just recycling old-saws and back-of-napkin narratives, as opposed to anything more verifiably "causal" than what 57 posted.

expanding healthcare coverage is by far the party's best issue...they should talk about it 90% of the time...but the language and emphasis needs to be different by district...and some tolerance for incrementalism is a good thing...the end goal of the two wings of the party is not much different on healthcare
 
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