GDT: 11/3/20, Election Day, Donald J. Trump vs. Joseph R. Biden

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57Brave said:
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Yes, because the United States wouldn't exist without this system. There was a fear that large states like Virginia and Massachusetts would run over tiny states like Rhode Island. The Senate exists to ensure that every sovereign State has an important voice.

I'm amazed at how quick people are to dismiss state sovereignty.
 
I heard Pelosi is pushing an election reform bill. MAGA land going crazy about it. Sounds all like good **** to me. She should ram it down Republicans throats first chance she gets. This election reform is long overdue and they should have done it under Obama. The election process is needlessly cumbersome and everything that is meant to deter votes needs to go. Greater access and ability to voting will always get my support no matter who it benefits.
 
striker42 said:
Yes, because the United States wouldn't exist without this system. There was a fear that large states like Virginia and Massachusetts would run over tiny states like Rhode Island. The Senate exists to ensure that every sovereign State has an important voice.

I'm amazed at how quick people are to dismiss state sovereignty.
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Break California into 3 states, DC as state gets 1 Senator, PR as a state gets 1 Senator.
 
jpx7 said:
I have no faith in your market, given its history of littering abject social failures across the globe.

But that's one of the big differences between left-wing (correct) and right-wing (incorrect) populism.
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I’m well aware you always support taking power from the people and giving it to a government entity.
 
NY times reporting that ballots arriving after election day are being segregated. They are counted separately and processed but not added to the official vote tally.
 
striker42 said:
Yes, because the United States wouldn't exist without this system. There was a fear that large states like Virginia and Massachusetts would run over tiny states like Rhode Island. The Senate exists to ensure that every sovereign State has an important voice.

I'm amazed at how quick people are to dismiss state sovereignty.
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Slavery wouldn't have existed without this policy.

Screw state sovereignty.

Why is there a state of Rhode Island ?
 
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57Brave said:
Slavery wouldn't have existed without this policy.

Screw state sovereignty
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You're totally discounting the check on federal power state sovereignty is. The federal government is a government is enumerated powers. Those powers not handed over to the federal government are reserved to the states. These include the general police powers (powers to regulate health, safety, welfare, and morals). Killing state sovereignty would mean handing all these powers over the federal government. Imagine Trump in control of a federal government with twice the current power.

You're wanting to break the system so that your point of view can get a little more representation without realizing there are important reasons for certain institutions.
 
thethe said:
I’m well aware you always support taking power from the people and giving it to a government entity.
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Lol—what a warped world-view.

Providing people with freedom, by liberating them from economic devastation, is not "taking power from the people", it's literally empowering them. A government can and should be nothing more than a collection of people representing even more people, acting as their voice, and ensuring society proceeds in the most fair and equitable way possible. It's not the boogeyman here—that's the corporate interests who have managed such great sway with the bureaucratic–managerial class.
 
striker42 said:
You're totally discounting the check on federal power state sovereignty is. The federal government is a government is enumerated powers. Those powers not handed over to the federal government are reserved to the states. These include the general police powers (powers to regulate health, safety, welfare, and morals). Killing state sovereignty would mean handing all these powers over the federal government. Imagine Trump in control of a federal government with twice the current power.

You're wanting to break the system so that your point of view can get a little more representation without realizing there are important reasons for certain institutions.
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I see your point, and stand corrected
State sovereignty was in a way what protected us from Trump this week.
 
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Does anyone know the cut off for Georgia recount. I understand it is .5 % but in real votes ?
 
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striker42 said:
You're totally discounting the check on federal power state sovereignty is. The federal government is a government is enumerated powers. Those powers not handed over to the federal government are reserved to the states. These include the general police powers (powers to regulate health, safety, welfare, and morals). Killing state sovereignty would mean handing all these powers over the federal government. Imagine Trump in control of a federal government with twice the current power.

You're wanting to break the system so that your point of view can get a little more representation without realizing there are important reasons for certain institutions.
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You're not wrong—but both sides play this game, giving lip-service to more local democracy only when it's convenient for them

Look at Montana passing LR-130—Republicans wanting to take away smaller institutions' rights to make their own rules. Conceal-carry laws in Missoula County aren't restricting the rights of folks down in neighboring Ravalli County, much less Custer County, seven hours away out on the prairie. But now a state-wide initiative has squeaked by, consolidating the ability to make policy to Helena and Helena alone. Not very small-c conservative at all.
 
57Brave said:
I dont think it is, I think it showing how much of California that piece of Mass, NH and Maine take up.
6 Senators as opposed to 2 .

Caught that too
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Except that mass's 2 are rolled into the 12 with NJ, NY, VT, Conn, MA and RI.

Anyway California has a size about equal to the whole north east which traditionally is Boston, NY, Philly Baltimore and DC Metro.

But that Population is like 12M more.

California probably should be multiple states. That's not wrong. But they have benefits of being a large state that North Eastern States don't have.
 
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Georgia makes me wonder how many "red states"

are not actually red states if everyone was allowed to vote.
 


I think Googliani just made a podcast admitting the Trump campaign strategy was to get to get a big lead, declare victory, and then try to shut down vote counting. He is ranting and raving about how its not fair that some states were called for Biden or Trump.
 
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My favorite internet thing today is watching Philly dance in the streets

2nd is watching Biden run up the score
 
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