I think its a big problem we played cute with one of the top 10 players in franchise history because a model said he wouldn't age well (which will be wrong).
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I think its a big problem we played cute with one of the top 10 players in franchise history because a model said he wouldn't age well (which will be wrong).
VirginiaBrave
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If had not acted the way he did last year during the two series last year I might buy that. But I give the man the benefit of the doubt those tears were genuine and the body language backed it up. There is no way he wanted to leave.
DirkPiggler
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Olson is streaky. He always has been. Look at the way he ended last year, or the way he began this year.
It would be nice to have the consistency of Freeman. If Freddie would have signed the better deal offered then Olson wouldn't be an issue for us.
I believe there is something to the talk that the agent played a game of chicken with Freddie's negotiations. But ultimately the agent works for the player and not the other way around.
Russ2dollas
10 yr, $185 million Extension
I don't think we played cute. His agents thought they had all the leverage and overplayed their hand.
I wish FF had communicated to AA directly or been more forceful with his agents. I still think AA would have signed him to the Dodger deal.
CyYoung31
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The only one who played games were Freeman and his agent. How do you not understand this yet?
How do any of us know this one way or the other.
We tried to get him at the most 'efficient' contract as possible. There are players that you just shouldn't do that with and Freeman was one of them.
Deester11
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Crying about Freddie won't bring him back. Chipper said it best, if he wanted to be a Brave, he would be a Brave. He owns some culpability in his decision. I think Olson will be ok..but it's neigh a point in comparing the two. Freddie is just better.
Deester11
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I believe this.
msstate7
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Looks like we overplayed our hand to me. Olson on an 8-year contract and assets to get him.
If I were the face of the franchise that just helped the team win a world series (AND NEVER ASKED OUT WHEN THEY SUCKED) I would be pretty insulted that there was talk of "What about the end of the contract".
This is one of the top 10 players in franchise history. Just give him the ****ing deal and DEAL with the fact the outyears won't be super efficient.
Deester11
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Hmm...I hated giving up so much, understood it, but the prospect end is a wash AT THE MOMENT. Cusick is 2-1, 1.64 ERA 33INN/30K'S. Estes (I liked a lot) is 1-3, 4.24 ERA 34INN/30K'S. Shea is batting.213 with 7 hr's 21 RBI..687OPS.
The money is one thing, losing Freddie is one thing and the prospects another. Olsons cold stretches are brutal, but his hot stretches are great. I think he'll live up to the prospect and money part. The Freddie part...nope. But I think he'll be ok being Olson. At least I hope so.
Deester11
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How the F did they insult him by offering him a comparable deal sans a year?
Organization should have ran to lock Freeman up for his whole career.
I don't care at all what we would have paid in him in years 8-10. We had our window NOW.
Not giving him the years he wanted is an insult to an all time franchise guy.
Deester11
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I don't necessarily disagree but I think he still owns some culpability in the direction of where he wanted to be.
bravesfanMatt
Steve Harvey'd
I mean if FF wanted to be a Brave then he would be a Brave..
also, if The Braves wanted FF to be a Brave then he would be a Brave...
There is 2 sides and niether did their part well enough to keep a superior player.
also, if The Braves wanted FF to be a Brave then he would be a Brave...
There is 2 sides and niether did their part well enough to keep a superior player.
Freddie wasn't perfect in this process for sure but I honeslty believe that AA got too cute with 'efficiency' scenarios. Sometimes you have to throw away all you know is 'wrong' for something like this.
AA has been a fantastic GM but there will always be a massive 'What If' associated with his tenure if the Braves don't win another world series with this group. Even if he just wins 1 more then nobody will say a thing. However, if the Braves can't find a way to get one more I don't think he is going to be remembered favorably in Braves history.
Hudson2
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Y’all still whining about Freeman? Lolol. Get over it bc Olson is here for 6 more years after this one and he’ll be 35 years old that’s middle 30’s not late 30’s like somebody else said. FF is a lot more consistent and Olson is streaky he always has been. He’s still a top 5 1b in baseball at 22 million a year.
Hudson2
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Having FF instead of Olson doesn’t guarantee you another WS lol.
msstate7
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Maybe not guarantee it, but FF's 7.1 fWAR last season makes that team much better