GDT 9/30/21: Braves vs Philthies - 4 the Sweep and the Division

bravesnumberone said:
From what we’ve seen lately, I have no confidence in Dick Rod and Webb to get the job done if they’re called on in the Milwaukee series. I have no idea how we’re going to round out the bullpen.
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I don’t trust Webb at all. I’d let Strider throw a few innings today and put him on the post season roster. Throws a 101 and there’s no scouting report out on him yet.
 
Enscheff said:
It wasn’t ridiculous at all. Nobody predicted the Mets would completely faceplate. They went from leading the division for 100+ days to finishing with a losing record. At one point they went 9-16, which is a month long 123 loss pace.

That faceplate just so happened to coincide with the Braves completely turning their season around and playing extremely well for 2 months.

If that’s not a roughly 1 in 17 occurrence, I don’t know what is. Just because the 7% outcome came to pass does not mean the 7% value was wrong.
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The Mets’ collapse was historically bad. And, as you say, it was a big component of the Braves’ triumph over those justifiable 7% odds.
 
jpx7 said:
The Mets’ collapse was historically bad. And, as you say, it was a big component of the Braves’ triumph over those justifiable 7% odds.
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You also thought that the Braves didn’t add well at the deadline. You were objectively wrong.
 
Given a team with a 7% chance to make the playoffs, and (speculatively) unable to trade their two most valuable pieces in Freeman and Morton, I think AA made almost the perfect set of moves at the deadline.

My only small issue was getting Rodriguez. It was pretty obvious he lost rpm without the sticky stuff, and they paid real value to get him.
 
CyYoung31 said:
You also thought that the Braves didn’t add well at the deadline. You were objectively wrong.
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I thought they shouldn't have added at the deadline, which is a bit different. I would've loved to get guys like Pederson, Duvall, and Soler to flank Acuña; in fact, I wanted a Duvall & Pederson platoon to start off the season, so I had no problem with who they added.

I just thought that their season was FINNISH after Acuña went down—and I stand by that, even if it's now technically not true.
 
jpx7 said:
I thought they shouldn't have added at the deadline, which is a bit different. I would've loved to get guys like Pederson, Duvall, and Soler to flank Acuña; in fact, I wanted a Duvall & Pederson platoon to start off the season, so I had no problem with who they added.

I just thought that their season was FINNISH after Acuña went down—and I stand by that, even if it's now technically not true.
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Nope. You literally said that they didn’t add well. I’ve got receipts.
 
That was a historic double for Albies. He joined a list of

Stan Musial (6), Lou Gehrig (6), Rogers Hornsby (6), Hank Greenberg (5), Chuck Klein (4), Mookie Betts (3), Ted Williams (3) and Al Simmons (3)
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of players who have "at least three seasons of at least 40 doubles, 20 homers and five triples." Pretty dope list.
 
Enscheff said:
Given a team with a 7% chance to make the playoffs, and (speculatively) unable to trade their two most valuable pieces in Freeman and Morton, I think AA made almost the perfect set of moves at the deadline.

My only small issue was getting Rodriguez. It was pretty obvious he lost rpm without the sticky stuff, and they paid real value to get him.
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Bryce Wilson or the reliever prospect no one had ever heard of?

I don't buy into the false certainty of those playoff odds.

You could put literally any number on it and then declare it was a 1000 year storm when it doesn't go that way, but that don't make it so.
 
jpx7 said:
I thought they shouldn't have added at the deadline, which is a bit different. I would've loved to get guys like Pederson, Duvall, and Soler to flank Acuña; in fact, I wanted a Duvall & Pederson platoon to start off the season, so I had no problem with who they added.

I just thought that their season was FINNISH after Acuña went down—and I stand by that, even if it's now technically not true.
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My view was that you couldn't sell if you were in the race and the Braves were in the race.

I think Alex did a good job of finding scratch and dent OFs in a buyers market.
 
CyYoung31 said:
Nope. You literally said that they didn’t add well. I’ve got receipts.
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Because it's impossible to add well when you're FINNISH. I thought they shouldn't be expending any resources, however marginal, on a lost season—not to mention the opportunity-cost of not trading in current assets for future assets.

But I've always been an Anthopoulos defender, so I have no issue tipping my cap to another feather in his cap. He's the classic Wily Canadian stereotype.
 
Southcack77 said:
My view was that you couldn't sell if you were in the race and the Braves were in the race.

I think Alex did a good job of finding scratch and dent OFs in a buyers market.
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My view was that the Braves were not in the race, regardless of what the standings technically reflected, the moment Ronald Acuña Jr went down.

And I'm still shocked at what they've been able to accomplish since losing their by-far best player, who happens to be one of the top-three position players in the league. But clearly Anthopoulos did a phenomenal job playing the angles, and the Mets were obliging with a historically-epic collapse.
 
jpx7 said:
My view was that the Braves were not in the race, regardless of what the standings technically reflected, the moment Ronald Acuña Jr went down.

And I'm still shocked at what they've been able to accomplish since losing their by-far best player, who happens to be one of the top-three position players in the league. But clearly Anthopoulos did a phenomenal job playing the angles, and the Mets were obliging with a historically-epic collapse.
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The Mets had something like a 0 run differential, an objectively weird roster, and are the Mets.

The Phillies too didn't have much of a roster and had a negative run differential.

And it was only what? 4 games? Someone coughs one of those up pretty regularly.

I agree that maybe the majority of times you play out those OF additions that they don't perform this well, but Fried, Morton, getting Anderson back were somewhat expected I think.

People overrate selling imo. It's kind of fun.
 
I was someone who wanted us to sell, but was realistic about who we'd reasonably sell. We weren't going to trade Freeman and Morton may not have ok'd a deal. So that left us with not much to deal. The next best thing was to get some pieces that could potentially help us without giving up anything significant. AA did just that at a master level. So now we're in the playoffs facing a Brewers team that just lost a key piece of their team and seem reasonably beatable. After that we stand a decent chance to not have to face the Dodgers, who could easily lose to the Cardinals in the wildcard game. As questionable as a our team is, the playoffs don't seem that daunting right now.
 
jpx7 said:
Because it's impossible to add well when you're FINNISH. I thought they shouldn't be expending any resources, however marginal, on a lost season—not to mention the opportunity-cost of not trading in current assets for future assets.

But I've always been an Anthopoulos defender, so I have no issue tipping my cap to another feather in his cap. He's the classic Wily Canadian stereotype.
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Coyotes, not Canadians
 
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