GDT: BRAVES VS TWINS: SWANSON MLB DEBUT!

Buzzworm said:
School has already started.My kids have been in school 2 weeks now.most of metro Atlanta has been in.So I'm sure that didn't help lol
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Got it. We don't start until after Labor Day up here in Minnesota due to the lobbying power of the resort industry.
 
msstate7 said:
Here's last 8 Wednesday night games going back to April...

Pitt -- 19,281

Cle -- 16,600

Cinn -- 14,953

SF -- 15,107

Mil -- 12,869

Philly -- 13,760

LAD -- 16,087

Wash -- 18,531

Avg Wed night crowd -- 15,899

I also took the avg of the crowd for the overall losing record teams (reds, Brewers, and Phillies). That avg attendance is 13,851.

Tonight's attendance was 19,304. So Enscheff, looks like dansby helped with attendance
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Sample size = 1. I'll look forward to your update in 2 weeks.

Regardless, definitely worth the few extra folks in attendance in exchange for losing control of his age 29 season, during which he will be in his prime and the Braves window of contention will be wide open.

Is that the point you are trying to make? Or am I missing something?
 
I think it's fair to say Dansby will probably hover around a .500 average for his career! I can't wait to see what we have.

In all honesty, he looked poised, confident and like he has fun. I'm glad we have him!

On the other hand, I REALLY want the number one pick now... I mean, why not? It only helps our already full system.
 
chop2chip said:
Good work by the Barves to open up a five game lead for last place. Barring another September collapse we should coast to the number one pick.
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Its weirdly fun following the reverse pennant chase. When we "gain" ground on teams it's actually a bad thing. A September "collapse" this go around is used as a positive we don't want.
 
Enscheff said:
Sample size = 1. I'll look forward to your update in 2 weeks.

Regardless, definitely worth the few extra folks in attendance in exchange for losing control of his age 29 season, during which he will be in his prime and the Braves window of contention will be wide open.

Is that the point you are trying to make? Or am I missing something?
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It doesn't matter if he's a free agent at 29 or 30 ultimately if we don't have any money to pony up. If he's that good and we have no financial back in we're screwed anyways. I see it more as the FO not wanting to waste Freddie's prime anymore than they have to, to have a competitive team around him.
 
Enscheff said:
Sample size = 1. I'll look forward to your update in 2 weeks.

Regardless, definitely worth the few extra folks in attendance in exchange for losing control of his age 29 season, during which he will be in his prime and the Braves window of contention will be wide open.

Is that the point you are trying to make? Or am I missing something?
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I'm trying to prove anything. I don't care either way. Just thought the argument was interesting and collected some data. I singled you out bc you gloated big time during the game and were wrong
 
msstate7 said:
I'm trying to prove anything. I don't care either way. Just thought the argument was interesting and collected some data. I singled you out bc you gloated big time during the game and were wrong
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Like I stated in my original mockery post, let's wait for a sample size bigger than 1, OK?

A few thousand extra butts in the seats in no way justifies losing control of Swanson's age 29 season, which could very well be worth tens of millions of dollars. Anyone who thinks boosted attendance justifies his early call up in any way is wrong, regardless of last night's attendance number.

Now go mock Matt for saying Swanson would boost attendance by 5k per night for the rest of the season.
 
Enscheff said:
Like I stated in my original mockery post, let's wait for a sample size bigger than 1, OK?

A few thousand extra butts in the seats in no way justifies losing control of Swanson's age 29 season, which could very well be worth tens of millions of dollars. Anyone who thinks boosted attendance justifies his early call up in any way is wrong, regardless of last night's attendance number.

Now go mock Matt for saying Swanson would boost attendance by 5k per night for the rest of the season.
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And anybody that thinks there's any chance he becomes a free-agent before he's 30 if he's as good as everyone thinks he is is also wrong. He'll never see arbitration, so what difference does calling him up now make?
 
clvclv said:
And anybody that thinks there's any chance he becomes a free-agent before he's 30 if he's as good as everyone thinks he is is also wrong. He'll never see arbitration, so what difference does calling him up now make?
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it baffles me that everyone thinks that the Johns don't understand service time and how it works. That they called him up and in 6 years will be surprised when he becomes a FA. I am sure there is a plan behind all of this.. but let the bemoaning continue.. quite enjoyable personally.
 
bravesfanMatt said:
it baffles me that everyone thinks that the Johns don't understand service time and how it works. That they called him up and in 6 years will be surprised when he becomes a FA. I am sure there is a plan behind all of this.. but let the bemoaning continue.. quite enjoyable personally.
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As much as I and everyone else wants Swanson to be the man for the next 10 plus years the real truth is that his pre FA years are likely going to be most of the best years of his career. He's 23 and that's a big deal. The ideal scenario would be to extend him 2-3 years until he is 31-32 and let him play his decline years on a fat contract somewhere else. This is all assuming he becomes the legit player we want him to be.
 
thewupk said:
As much as I and everyone else wants Swanson to be the man for the next 10 plus years the real truth is that his pre FA years are likely going to be most of the best years of his career. He's 23 and that's a big deal. The ideal scenario would be to extend him 2-3 years until he is 31-32 and let him play his decline years on a fat contract somewhere else. This is all assuming he becomes the legit player we want him to be.
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If the Braves never send him down, they will control is age 23-28 seasons. Maybe they can get him to sign a 6 year deal right now with an option year that will extend his control through his 20s. Most guys want to hit the FA market at 30 or younger, not 31-32.
 
thewupk said:
As much as I and everyone else wants Swanson to be the man for the next 10 plus years the real truth is that his pre FA years are likely going to be most of the best years of his career. He's 23 and that's a big deal. The ideal scenario would be to extend him 2-3 years until he is 31-32 and let him play his decline years on a fat contract somewhere else. This is all assuming he becomes the legit player we want him to be.
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The Braves would be smart to try to buy out a couple years of free agency and early. It seems like the type of perfect scenario where it would be possible (Cobb kid, shares the same agent as Freddie Freeman, we have the payroll, etc.).
 
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