GDT--Sat, 6/30 vs Cards

sturg33 said:
I don't see why Markakis would take a 1 year deal. When you have a career year at age 35, would be kinda stupid to settlle for a 1-year deal only to hope you do the exact same thing again
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I agree—though that’s also an argument for extending the QO if he finishes the season as well as he’s started it.
 
Braves1976 said:
Y'all are talking way too soon given Markakis history, he's usually a much better first half performer than second half. If he does like last year this second half we may miss the playoffs with him being our clean-up hitter. That is why I am hoping we add Beltre to hit 4th and drop Markakis to 5th giving us depth should he have a second half like last year.
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I agree that we should wait until the end of the year to make any sort of judgement on Nick, but outside of last year he hasn't really shown himself to be a much better first half hitter. He actually had a .762 OPS on average in the second half versus .728 in the first from 2015-2017.

If he can keep this up the entire year I wouldn't mind signing him to a one year deal just due to the lack of FA OF options.
 
sturg33 said:
I don't see why Markakis would take a 1 year deal. When you have a career year at age 35, would be kinda stupid to settlle for a 1-year deal only to hope you do the exact same thing again
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Given what happened this past offseason teams seem to be getting smart and not offering long deals to older players, wouldn't surprise if he would be willing to do a 1 year deal with an option given the current climate. Though obviously someone could get enamored with his career year and give him a 3 year deal.
 
Braves1976 said:
Y'all are talking way too soon given Markakis history, he's usually a much better first half performer than second half. If he does like last year this second half we may miss the playoffs with him being our clean-up hitter. That is why I am hoping we add Beltre to hit 4th and drop Markakis to 5th giving us depth should he have a second half like last year.
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You mean the 39 year old slugging about .440 with 4 homers? He's not a power hitter anymore dude. Will never understand why people want him when Camargo's stats are comparable and he has some upside. Beltre has zero upside.
 
auyushu said:
I agree that we should wait until the end of the year to make any sort of judgement on Nick, but outside of last year he hasn't really shown himself to be a much better first half hitter. He actually had a .762 OPS on average in the second half versus .728 in the first from 2015-2017.

If he can keep this up the entire year I wouldn't mind signing him to a one year deal just due to the lack of FA OF options.
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Maybe I was looking at just the first two months, but my main point is he isn't an .870-.880 OPS player like we are seeing so far this year. Great start, but I am expecting him to be around a .728 or so OPS player again in the second half given his age. As far as re-signing him to a one year deal, sure if he helps us make the playoffs and will take a fair deal.
 
zbhargrove said:
You mean the 39 year old slugging about .440 with 4 homers? He's not a power hitter anymore dude. Will never understand why people want him when Camargo's stats are comparable and he has some upside. Beltre has zero upside.
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Beltre is still a great veteran hitter and I didn't say replace Camargo. Beltre at 39 is still hitting over .300 with an OPS over .800 too. I'd still get him plenty AB's at short and third resting Beltre.
 
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I understand this all generally works itself out... I really do.

But am starting to see quite a logjam here with near-mlb ready pitchers:

You've got the locks:

Newcomb
Folty
Soroka

Then you've got the high upside arms who appear to be near ready if not ready:

Gohara
Fried
Allard
Wright

You have someone like Touki who could be knocking on the door by 2020.

Plus you have Teheran under contract. And I contend Wisler would be a very servicable #5.

That's 9 guys there. I'd love to be able to dump Julio, and you can always count on an injury or two and a flameout... but it is a bit of embarrassment of riches.

Of course, this could all be solved with a couple trades, but I'm having a hard time seeing the natural path to regular big league innings for the deserving kids
 
If we add a third baseman it will probably take away from Swanson's AB's more than Camargo's since Camargo is hitting better and has shown he can handle short without costing you runs. Swanson would still play pretty regularly either way with his improved defense.
 
sturg33 said:
I understand this all generally works itself out... I really do.

But am starting to see quite a logjam here with near-mlb ready pitchers:

You've got the locks:

Newcomb
Folty
Soroka

Then you've got the high upside arms who appear to be near ready if not ready:

Gohara
Fried
Allard
Wright

You have someone like Touki who could be knocking on the door by 2020.

Plus you have Teheran under contract. And I contend Wisler would be a very servicable #5.

That's 9 guys there. I'd love to be able to dump Julio, and you can always count on an injury or two and a flameout... but it is a bit of embarrassment of riches.

Of course, this could all be solved with a couple trades, but I'm having a hard time seeing the natural path to regular big league innings for the deserving kids
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Several quality pitchers wlll be used in trades or pushed to the bullpen.
 
Braves1976 said:
Beltre is still a great veteran hitter and I didn't say replace Camargo. Beltre at 39 is still hitting over .300 with an OPS over .800 too. I'd still get him plenty AB's at short and third resting Beltre.
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No thanks. We have our solid veteran hitter. I want a difference maker or nothing at all... it's just dealing someone to deal them.
 
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