Georgia Senate Runoff

Had you asked me not long after the General Election, I’d have probably called these runoffs a coin flip to tilt GOP.

Needless to say, the performance art put on by the GA GOP, Trump’s actions, the things spewed by Lin Wood/Sidney Powell, and McConnell not budging on the 2k stimulus all happening in the two months afterward made this happen. Abrams does deserve credit for her work she's done, but the actions that we saw in the months after the general...boy, the GOP took two seats that they really should not have lost this time and fumbled them away.

It will be interesting to see what happens going forward. If the GA GOP continues to cater more towards the rural voters, I don’t see how they’re going to regain ground in places like Gwinnett/Cobb/Douglas, and as we’ve seen, it makes it very hard in this state. Not impossible (given that Kemp won in 2018), but hard.
 
I still can't fathom that Ossoff will be a senator. I can't think of anyone less qualified for the job. That's a testament to how bad Trump hurt the GOP.

Honestly, I've known pizza delivery guys more qualified.
 
I dont really know anything about Ossoff but what exactly qualifies a person for Congress? And as a former pizza delivery driver I assume you mean me, to which I thank you :P
 
I dont really know anything about Ossoff but what exactly qualifies a person for Congress? And as a former pizza delivery driver I assume you mean me, to which I thank you :P

My thoughts exactly. I’m at the point where skill and experience as a politician could be considered a net negative.

Ossoff was elected to vote D. A child could do that.
 
I still can't fathom that Ossoff will be a senator. I can't think of anyone less qualified for the job. That's a testament to how bad Trump hurt the GOP.

Honestly, I've known pizza delivery guys more qualified.

Where does Loeffler stand on the Ossoff-pizza delivery guy scale.
 
I still can't fathom that Ossoff will be a senator. I can't think of anyone less qualified for the job. That's a testament to how bad Trump hurt the GOP.

Honestly, I've known pizza delivery guys more qualified.

gotta love trump supporters talking qualifications.
 
I still can't fathom that Ossoff will be a senator. I can't think of anyone less qualified for the job. That's a testament to how bad Trump hurt the GOP.

Honestly, I've known pizza delivery guys more qualified.

Did you sleep through yesterday and last night ?
 
Where does Loeffler stand on the Ossoff-pizza delivery guy scale.

Loeffler is far more qualified than Ossoff but still well below average. She has leadership experience in the business world though far less than I would have liked.

I'd put Loeffler on par with Warnock in terms of qualification. Neither have much political experience just real world leadership experience.

Ossoff is a spoiled child who has never done anything. If a dog had a D next to its name and ran there wouldn't have been any real difference. No one voted for Ossoff because he was an excellent candidate, they voted for him because it meant democrat control of the Senate.
 
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Loeffler is far more qualified than Ossoff but still well below average. She has leadership experience in the business world though far less than I would have liked.

I'd put Loeffler on par with Warnock in terms of qualification. Neither have much political experience just real world leadership experience.

Ossoff is a spoiled child who has never done anything. If a dog had a D next to its name and ran there wouldn't have been any real difference. No one voted for Ossoff because he was an excellent candidate, they voted for him because it meant democrat control of the Senate.

I agree with last part, but the inverse is probably true though too.
 
How much does that really matter today? The combination of the internet and media have basically made all national politics national. The policy stances of both parties are derived from some combination of think tanks, academia, and board rooms, so you don't need a lot of bright bulbs.
Voting for any Democrat has pretty much been voting for California liberalism since Pelosi took control of the party. Prior to Trump, voting for a Republican meant some combination of Wall Street and Southern Baptist Convention.

I'm just not sure there's enough critical thinking for individual candidates to matter much beyond being personable and saying enough to energize your base without energizing the other base.
 
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How much does that really matter today? The combination of the internet and media have basically made all national politics national. The policy stances of both parties are derived from some combination of think tanks, academia, and board rooms, so you don't need a lot of bright bulbs.
Voting for any Democrat has pretty much been voting for California liberalism since Pelosi took control of the party. Prior to Trump, voting for a Republican meant some combination of Wall Street and Southern Baptist Convention.

I'm just not sure there's enough critical thinking for individual candidates to matter much beyond being personable and saying enough to energize your base without energizing the other base.

Justin Amash has detailed how we have become an oligarch and not a real republic anymore.

The party members just do what they are told
 
I agree with last part, but the inverse is probably true though too.

The vast majority of voters will vote for the letter next to a name regardless of who the candidate is. I'm just bemoaning the fact that Ossoff got into the Senate because of this. There are a lot of Democrats in Georgia I'd rather see in the Senate than him.
 
The vast majority of voters will vote for the letter next to a name regardless of who the candidate is. I'm just bemoaning the fact that Ossoff got into the Senate because of this. There are a lot of Democrats in Georgia I'd rather see in the Senate than him.

who do you have in mind
 
The vast majority of voters will vote for the letter next to a name regardless of who the candidate is. I'm just bemoaning the fact that Ossoff got into the Senate because of this. There are a lot of Democrats in Georgia I'd rather see in the Senate than him.

Ossoff won his race by getting his constituents to vote for him, so he is as qualified to be a politician as anyone can be. That's how Senators get their jobs, they get elected. He's not been appointed head of the Commerce or the Education Dept or some other position that will require special skills. He has to raise money and show up to vote. Integrity will help.

We need to put to bed the idea that experience in business makes one good at governing. It was wrong from the beginning and we've just seen a 4 year display disputing that idea.
 
Ossoff won his race by getting his constituents to vote for him, so he is as qualified to be a politician as anyone can be. That's how Senators get their jobs, they get elected. He's not been appointed head of the Commerce or the Education Dept or some other special job that will require special skills.

We need to put to bed the idea that experience in business makes one good at governing. It was wrong from the beginning and we've just seen a 4 year display disputing that idea.

Actually I'm a fan of politicians having a diversity of life and work experiences. I wouldn't put businessman above or below any other profession. But I think the emphasis has to be the right businessman or woman.
 
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