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Elections have real consequences

All of this didn’t seem to be an issue under Trump.

It’s amazing to me people don’t investigate why. It didn’t just happen like a magic trick
 
If the two sides had their way without consequences who do you think would be attempting to commit real genocide?

lets see if you are honest in your assessments....

Hamas. Now let’s see if you’re being honest with your assessments. Which side has done more harm to innocent people in this war?
 
Hamas. Now let’s see if you’re being honest with your assessments. Which side has done more harm to innocent people in this war?

Hamas - Thats an easy one.

You don't get to take civilians for execution and torture and hide behind other civilians while absolving yourself of the blame for the reprucussions.

The other people more responsible than Israel in this unfortunate time - The people that support Hamas and provide aid and cover. But again - You don't care about any of this because you view Israel as the oppressor.

Only in childish worlds that you live in does that fly.
 
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Hamas - Thats an easy one.

You don't get to take civilians for execution and torture and hide behind other civilians while absolving yourself of the blame for the reprucussions.

Only in childish worlds that you live in does that fly.

You know what else you can’t absolve yourself of the blame from? Killing 40,000 civilians.
 
You know what else you can’t absolve yourself of the blame from? Killing 40,000 civilians.

Oh if Israel had its way this wouldn't be happening you can take that to the bank.

Its a shame they live around so many animals that force their hands.

But we know in your world eveyrthing should be equal including the number of casualities.

Just a child.
 
Hamas. Now let’s see if you’re being honest with your assessments. Which side has done more harm to innocent people in this war?

Hamas.

They hide behind women and children like cowards while Hamas leaders hide out in Lebanon, Iran, Qatar, etc. and and stoke the fires of war from afar. Israel literally just wants their hostages back. If Israel got the hostages back today, and Hamas agreed to a ceasefire, Israel would pull their troops out. Shoot, if they just got their hostages back, Israel would pull most of their troops out of Palestine. Israel has a right to defend itself.

We shouldn't have unconditional support for Israel. Certainly there have been actions I disagree with Israel taking. But the Biden administration started this mess with the way retreated out of Afghanistan. It left the middle east in even more of a state of chaos than before. And it emboldened terrorist groups like Hamas.

Also, we STILL have American hostages in Palestine and the Biden Administration could not care less. There is ZERO reason we shouldn't have put boots to ass in Palestine to retrieve our hostages. And then maybe we would have had more influence in how Israel has responded this entire time.

Instead the Biden administration spent 230 million on a pier they had to shutdown after 3 weeks. It is amazing how you can support this level of incompetence.
 
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Great. My opinion is that 40,000 dead people is a crisis and isn’t just “life” and my other opinion is that as a neutral bystander that it’s weird you’d think such a discrepancy isn’t an issue.

So Israel should just what? Accept having their citizens raped and murdered? Accept having rockets shot at them? Accept being invaded by terrorist groups?

The amount of deflection you provide for terrorist groups is appalling. Hamas is the direct cause for all of this. I don't have 1 iota of sympathy for Palestinian people that choose to remain and choose to throw their support behind Hamas. Just like we shouldn't have had 1 iota of sympathy for Germans or Japanese during WWII when we bombed them.
 
So Israel should just what? Accept having their citizens raped and murdered? Accept having rockets shot at them? Accept being invaded by terrorist groups?

The amount of deflection you provide for terrorist groups is appalling. Hamas is the direct cause for all of this. I don't have 1 iota of sympathy for Palestinian people that choose to remain and choose to throw their support behind Hamas. Just like we shouldn't have had 1 iota of sympathy for Germans or Japanese during WWII when we bombed them.

Israel should have to risk each and every one of their armed forces members to go into enemy territory with just basic military gear so that hte playing level is even.

This is what fools like MQT want because THEY WANT to see Israels die.
 
Oct 7 wouldn’t have happened without funding from Joe.

I’m sorry you are slowly starting to realize how damaging your votes have been to real people

I don’t even think he understands still if he’s still pushing the narrative we are in the same spot even with Trump as president. Just brain dead morons.
 
I don’t even think he understands still if he’s still pushing the narrative we are in the same spot even with Trump as president. Just brain dead morons.

It’s not hard. Iran was DOA until Joe unsanctioned them.

There was peace without them funding terrorism.
 
It’s not hard. Iran was DOA until Joe unsanctioned them.

There was peace without them funding terrorism.

It really is this easy - Also, Taliban respected Trump and anyone with a brain knows that the withdrawal wouldn't hbave been the disaster it was.

And finally - Because the scum that run the west provoked Putin for a decade he invaded. Another thing that would never have happened if not for the 2020 steal.
 
Elections have consequences. Vegetable Joe has crippled strong positions internationally and the costs of this are really high and harder to reestablish.
 
Yup - Trumps job is much harder in 2025 than it was in 2017.

More than likely we will see smaller incremental improvments and just set the table up for Vance/Vivek to fix the world over the next 16 years.
 
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