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mqt said:
No, the reality is not that the holocaust is happening if Israel doesn’t take total control of Gaza. Israel has already dominated the territory for decades and inflicted countless laws restricting the movement of Palestinians and often enforces those laws barbarically. It’s not an excuse for Hamas to commit violence or take hostages, but this is more akin to the Native Americans fighting back during American expansion than the Nazis coming to power in Germany. The power dynamic is flipped.
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The part that no one talks about is how Hamas is in some ways Israel's creature. For two decades the Israeli government found it very convenient to have Hamas as the rulers of Gaza. It gave them a ready-made excuse to freeze the status quo. Unfortunately, it blew up in their faces. Bigly.

Once upon a time Israel had a prime minister prepared to seek out, nurture and cut a deal with responsible Palestinian partners. He was assassinated by Israelis opposed to making any sort of deal. For them Hamas was a godsend.
 
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chop2chip said:
Shockingly sparse coverage of the French elections in this thread.
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I think it was a great sign for the true right win anti-immigration parties across all of Europe.

The 'center right' showed their hand and now the illusion to the people that there is any difference between the establishment right and the communist left is gone. These parties will continue to grow in size and influence.

Of course though Le Pen is now under investigation. Sounds familiar right?
 
Macron really showed his ass. In order to keep the populists out he sided with the hard left and the commies.
 
Garmel said:
Macron really showed his ass. In order to keep the populists out he sided with the hard left and the commies.
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Its all about getting cheap labor for their corporate masters. Thats the only thing that matters. The people of the West are irrelevant to them.

But now the people of France will get to see what it looks like for a few years and won't have the illusions the center right is a reasonable avenue to get their country back. Things take time and I love the trajectory that much of Europe is on right now.

Hopefully Farage continues to build steam because again by a sheer headcount they have fanastic support.
 
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thethe said:
I think it was a great sign for the true right win anti-immigration parties across all of Europe.

The 'center right' showed their hand and now the illusion to the people that there is any difference between the establishment right and the communist left is gone. These parties will continue to grow in size and influence.

Of course though Le Pen is now under investigation. Sounds familiar right?
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“Our messaging on social issues was so extreme that we couldn’t even get other right-wingers to reject Emmanuel Macron and stop the liberals from taking power” isn’t quite the flex you’re making it out to be.
 
mqt said:
“Our messaging on social issues was so extreme that we couldn’t even get other right-wingers to reject Emmanuel Macron and stop the liberals from taking power” isn’t quite the flex you’re making it out to be.
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Just wait - Look at the trajectory of Le Pens party over the last 20 years.

More will come after the abject disaster that France will become.
 
It takes time to break through the messaing that Le Pen is a reincarnation of Hitler.

People stop believing media lies over time. What she has done has been nothing short of amazing.
 
thethe said:
Just wait - Look at the trajectory of Le Pens party over the last 20 years.

More will come after the abject disaster that France will become.
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For what it’s worth, I hope the Le Pens of the world take the same approach of hoping just because they had some success with growing their base that they’ve become popular with the average voter.
 
mqt said:
For what it’s worth, I hope the Le Pens of the world take the same approach of hoping just because they had some success with growing their base that they’ve become popular with the average voter.
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Because you think there is a limit - What you don't understand is that the starting point was only so low because the coordinated Global MSM used to have more impact in the everyday lies of average voters. As we move past the facade that we have an honest media people are making their own decisions and fortunately Musk has led the charge to get real information in the hands of the voters.

Just remember - When Le Pen gets an even larger majority in the next election (assumign the crooks who run the West don't jail her for BS like Trump) you'll understand that I was right.

It took a complete dog**** move from Macron and his bloc to keep Le Pen from running the country. Next time they won't be so lucky as the center voters see their beautiul country turn even more to ****.
 
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Because you think there is a limit - What you don't understand is that the starting point was only so low because the coordinated Global MSM used to have more impact in the everyday lies of average voters. As we move past the facade that we have an honest media people are making their own decisions and fortunately Musk has led the charge to get real information in the hands of the voters.

Just remember - When Le Pen gets an even larger majority in the next election (assumign the crooks who run the West don't jail her for BS like Trump) you'll understand that I was right.

It took a complete dog**** move from Macron and his bloc to keep Le Pen from running the country. Next time they won't be so lucky as the center voters see their beautiul country turn even more to ****.
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Again, I hope the only lesson Le Pen learns is that she’s just a few years of natural growth away from winning a majority. Nothing Macron did or didn’t do changes the fact that Le Pen didn’t have the votes to take control. If the other parties can pull such a successful end-around, maybe your bloc just isn’t as popular as you think it is.
 
mqt said:
Again, I hope the only lesson Le Pen learns is that she’s just a few years of natural growth away from winning a majority. Nothing Macron did or didn’t do changes the fact that Le Pen didn’t have the votes to take control. If the other parties can pull such a successful end-around, maybe your bloc just isn’t as popular as you think it is.
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Because it was a 25th hour trick where candidates removed their names from the ballot allowing the lefts party to suck up the remaining oxygen. If there was even a month longer to game plan and rally around that fact the election results would be different.

Le Pens party has grown at an incredible rate for 20 years and you think its now suddenly going to stop?

Good luck....
 
could also have been part of the leftist pro-Palestinian movement disrupting our campuses

many possibilites
 
or just plain old Muslims...whatever happened to that boogeyman

i guess they got supplanted by the latest group we want to demonize

personally i'm guessing a muslim terrorist who recently crossed the southern border which has intentionally been left wide open so people like that can come kill 'mericans
 
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