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It's crazy to me Gardner voted no.

I guess he knows he's gonna lose re-election in Colorado regardles of who is President, so he'd rather just get some kickbacks and money when he leaves office.
 
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though I abhor those hypothetical 3 AM dorm room discussions, will make this one exception.

How do we fix this ?

penny for your thoughts
 
57Brave said:
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though I abhor those hypothetical 3 AM dorm room discussions, will make this one exception.

How do we fix this ?

penny for your thoughts
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House of Reps should be much bigger than 438 reps. Should be much more districts.

I'm still meh on Senate. Nothing you can really do to fix it unless you tried to reapportionate it to where bigger states have 3-4 senators and small states like Rhode Island and Wyoming get only 1 senator. For many years South Dakota got an at-large congressional district and still got 2 senators so that didn't make any sense.
 
I think it starts with education. The voting public is woefully un/mis informed

People willingly vote against their own best interests
 
"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about the answers."
-Thomas Pynchon
 
we've apparently lost our … friends
As they would ask, " how do you pay for it ? "
That is easy. The hard part is getting to a mandate, then electing a Congress that will creatively do the will of the people

Getting to a mandate is the hard part because, the powers that be want a dumbed down electorate


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vpdt7omPoa0
 
The Chosen One said:
House of Reps should be much bigger than 438 reps. Should be much more districts.

I'm still meh on Senate. Nothing you can really do to fix it unless you tried to reapportionate it to where bigger states have 3-4 senators and small states like Rhode Island and Wyoming get only 1 senator. For many years South Dakota got an at-large congressional district and still got 2 senators so that didn't make any sense.
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The Senate is probably the biggest hurdle to having an actual, functioning democratic system. SCOTUS is maybe a close 2nd, but since its confirmation process is so dependent on the Senate, Senate takes priority IMO. I have long thought that the best thing for the country would be to make the government both more representative of and more responsive to the people. So,massive campaign finance and voting reform, add seats in the House so it conforms to true demographic reality, neuter the Senate.

Seems like more voter participation, less big-money influence, and fair proportional representation would be non-controversial...the fact that it’s not tells you all you need to know.
 
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On the flip side I see a lot of kids get the **** beat out of them by police who think they are standing up for their rights. That we dont give kids any real kind of legal training and send them out into a country with a meat grinder of a justice system is insane. Nothing like seeing cops send their dog on a teen for passivly resisting who laugh as the dog tears the kids arm to shreds because the kid thought he had a right to have a parent present.



Then theres the Sovereign Citizen idiots.....
 
Saturday voting or Second Tuesday in November federal holiday

Citizens United overturned

for a start
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I get more representatives/voices and think it a very good idea. However, we would have voting the same people influenced by the same people working for the same people
How do we root that rot out of the system ?

We would still have Rubios and Alexanders that go through their Senate tenure with nothing to show but a plum lobbying gig at the end.
Not to mention the Rand Pauls, Marcia Blackburns and Lindsey Grahams that stand in direct opposition of the (polled) interests of their constituents

I think an educated voter would not stand for those people that stand for nothing and are unwilling to do the work, for the people.
Health care is at the top of issues facing the 2020 election. And, what has the Majority in the Senate and the Minority in the House to show voters ?

The polling alone on witnesses and documents at impeachment stands as a glowing example of my point.
It isn't Trumps fault. Or even McConnell--- it is the people that voted them in
 
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Making it a federal holiday won't matter. I don't work for a company that follows federal holidays as do most people I know.

Make polling go for a whole day, like 9-9, maybe 7AM to 9PM. Anyone in line at 9 gets to vote as well.

Or come up with a way to handle online voting that's fraud free.
 
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Making it a federal holiday won't matter. I don't work for a company that follows federal holidays as do most people I know.

Make polling go for a whole day, like 9-9, maybe 7AM to 9PM. Anyone in line at 9 gets to vote as well.

Or come up with a way to handle online voting that's fraud free.
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Mail in voting like.WAS state has. Never have to go in line.
 
The Chosen One said:
Mail in voting like.WAS state has. Never have to go in line.
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I have voted by mail in Virginia every since 2004 or so because of my disability. The last time I went I was using my walker and almost fell. Now by voting by mail, I realize my vote may not be counted but that's true however you vote these days. All I can do is my civic duty.
 
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I think it starts with education. The voting public is woefully un/mis informed

People willingly vote against their own best interests
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It's true. The Fox News bubble kept public opinion for removal low enough that the Senators could do whatever they wanted.
 
VirginiaBrave said:
I have voted by mail in Virginia every since 2004 or so because of my disability. The last time I went I was using my walker and almost fell. Now by voting by mail, I realize my vote may not be counted but that's true however you vote these days. All I can do is my civic duty.
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In WAS, mail-in is standard not optional.
 
zitothebrave said:
Making it a federal holiday won't matter. I don't work for a company that follows federal holidays as do most people I know.

Make polling go for a whole day, like 9-9, maybe 7AM to 9PM. Anyone in line at 9 gets to vote as well.

Or come up with a way to handle online voting that's fraud free.
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For the same reasons early voting is a meaningful alternative.
Federal holiday as in 4th of July or Memorial Dy.
I mean, what good is the 4th if people are unable to maximize it's intent. And what good is Memorial Day if the reason we celebrate is exposed as a sham
Labor Day as well. 9 people out of 10 view Labor Day as the day the pools close rather than it's intent

MLK Day --- the country shuts down for the purpose of celebrating one that died for the sins of slave holders and bigots
The people that work 2 jobs have to rush to make 2nd job only to stand in line
It would make it illegal for a business owner to overtly or covertly deny the right to vote


We disagree on national holiday
 
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Trump reportedly wants Bolton under criminal investigation...... does this mother****er never learn? I would love to see Bolton go to prison as I know a lot of other people do but this would be obvious retaliation against a witness. I dont know if I can stomach another round of IMPOTUS pretending he just wants to root out corruption and it's just a coincidence he thinks his political enemies should be investigated.
 
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