John Sickel's Top 200 Prospect List

comments on Maitan #98

COMMENT: Maitan is the difficult slotting here. If you go by pure tools, he should be in the Top 50, or the Top 20, or even in the Top 10. But he hasn’t played yet, he turned 17 yesterday, and this is a hybrid list between pure upside and present ability. We have no idea how his marvelous tools will translate into a professional environment until he gets a chance to show us. If you are looking for long-term upside as opposed to a short or medium term horizon, bump him way up the list.
 
break down by team

Angels 2
Astros 9
Athletics 8
Blue Jays 7
Braves 14
Brewers 10
Cardinals 10
Cubs 8
Diamondbacks 4
Dodgers 10
Giants 6
Indians 10
Mariners 5
Marlins 1
Mets 8
Nationals 3
Orioles 3
Padres 9
Phillies 7
Pirates 6
Rangers 4
Rays 11
Red Sox 3
Reds 6
Rockies 7
Royals 3
Tigers 2
Twins 6
White Sox 9
Yankees 10
 
So we have 14, and the Rays are the only other team with more than 10? Even then, six of the Rays prospects on the list are from 162-200.

We have 14 and the rest of the NL East combines for 19.
 
CJ9 said:
So we have 14, and the Rays are the only other team with more than 10? Even then, six of the Rays prospects on the list are from 162-200.

We have 14 and the rest of the NL East combines for 19.
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The Marlins have ONE in the top-200, and he's 158th..........UUUGH - that's barren. Like their farm system is in the dust-bowl.
 
I would have though Demeritte played well enough in the AFL, same with Peterson, to be noticeed.
 
bravesfanMatt said:
break down by team

Angels 2
Astros 9
Athletics 8
Blue Jays 7
Braves 14
Brewers 10
Cardinals 10
Cubs 8
Diamondbacks 4
Dodgers 10
Giants 6
Indians 10
Mariners 5
Marlins 1
Mets 8
Nationals 3
Orioles 3
Padres 9
Phillies 7
Pirates 6
Rangers 4
Rays 11
Red Sox 3
Reds 6
Rockies 7
Royals 3
Tigers 2
Twins 6
White Sox 9
Yankees 10
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:pound:
 
bravesfanMatt said:
so Braves traded #187 Povse and MLB pitcher Whalen for NOT RANKED Alex Jackson because we hope to make him a catcher?

Man, I still don't like that trade.
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I get the upside of Jackson, sometimes you have to swing for the fences.

But I think I'd rather have Povse/Whalen. I like Povse quite a bit.
 
Bravesfanmatt just making your list a little easier to read.

Braves 14
Rays 11
Indians 10
Astros 9
Brewers 10
Cardinals 10
Yankees 10
Dodgers 10
White Sox 9
Padres 9
Cubs 8
Mets 8
Athletics 8
Blue Jays 7
Phillies 7
Rockies 7
Twins 6
Giants 6
Reds 6
Pirates 6
Mariners 5
Diamondbacks 4
Rangers 4
Nationals 3
Orioles 3
Red Sox 3
Royals 3
Tigers 2
Angels 2
Marlins 1

NL East
Braves - 14
Mets - 8
Phillies - 7
Nats - 3
Marlins - 1
 
Preacher said:
I get the upside of Jackson, sometimes you have to swing for the fences.

But I think I'd rather have Povse/Whalen. I like Povse quite a bit.
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yeah, I do too. Maybe we get him straight.. but I liked both pitchers we gave up.

-thanks for the edit. I used an excel spread sheet to drop a pivot and didn't do any editing for this page.
 
exactly. hoping to make a guy a catcher in exchange for a pitching prospect with several very unique qualities, not the least of which being that he doesn't walk batters.

only thing i can figure is that the braves know something about the dh about to be implemented in the nl.
 
chipchildress said:
exactly. hoping to make a guy a catcher in exchange for a pitching prospect with several very unique qualities, not the least of which being that he doesn't walk batters.

only thing i can figure is that the braves know something about the dh about to be implemented in the nl.
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I just think there are so many IFs with Jackson.

IF Jackson can play catcher
IF Jackson's attitude issues are a thing of the past
IF Jackson can get his bat on track
IF Jackson can stay healthy
IF Jackson can get out of A-Ball

Pitchers have their own inherent risk, but I like the floor on Povse, I didn't like the trade.

BUT....... if the Braves can get Jackson straightened out and IF he can play catcher, yea Coppy is going to look like a genius here and everybody is going to wonder how we landed a power hitting backstop for a mid-level arm.
 
bravesfanMatt said:
break down by team

Angels 2

Astros 9

Athletics 8

Blue Jays 7

Braves 14

Brewers 10

Cardinals 10

Cubs 8

Diamondbacks 4

Dodgers 10

Giants 6

Indians 10

Mariners 5

Marlins 1

Mets 8

Nationals 3

Orioles 3

Padres 9

Phillies 7

Pirates 6

Rangers 4

Rays 11

Red Sox 3

Reds 6

Rockies 7

Royals 3

Tigers 2

Twins 6

White Sox 9

Yankees 10
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Looks like Cards, Rays, Dodgers and Indians might have to be included in my overall value calculations. Will be interesting to see how these teams line up behind the Braves in total farm system value.
 
I like this list the best of any I've seen, not because the Braves have so many top prospects, but more where everyone is ranked. I like Maitan being lower than most places had him. I think it's silly to put him as high as some have when he hasn't played a game yet. Same with Anderson. He's played but doesn't have near enough of a track record to put him higher than he his here. I like the aggressive rankings for Allard and Soroka. I think they deserve to be there. And I like how Newcomb hasn't fallen as low as some have him. Still think he should be a bit higher than he is though.
 
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