Looking Ahead - The 2020 Offseason Thread

Who are the bats that people think it's worth sacrificing Duvall as a quality back up?

Springer
Brantley
Ozuna

Bryant (he or Riley to LF)
Turner (still think he won't come here regardless of price)
Lindor (too expensive in prospects and maybe salary)

Anyone else that is a reasonable Trade option?

Gallo
 
The problem with Dahl is he can never stay healthy, he isn't very good vs LHP, and he is a mediocre OFer who couldn't fake it in CF in 2020.

He's basically an injury prone Eddie Rosario, and nobody in their right mind would ever pay him $100M+. He was non-tendered for a reason, and that reason isn't him being a secret $100M player. Top prospects turn into MLB nobodies all the time, and that appears to be the case for Dahl.

Dahl seems like the type of player who should end up on a non contending team this year, who will flip him if he regains his value. Not sure a contending team will commit money and count on him. He was very cheap and the Rockies still cut him.
 
Dahl seems like the type of player who should end up on a non contending team this year, who will flip him if he regains his value. Not sure a contending team will commit money and count on him. He was very cheap and the Rockies still cut him.

This is exactly right. He is a good candidate to be a late bloomer, and a non-contending team should be all over taking that chance. Contending teams typically try to avoid gambling with their seasons of contention.
 
As was mentioned last off-season, the Royals are a good match with any of Dozier, Merrifield, and Soler. But they seem like they are too dumb to trade valuable players even when they know they have no hopes of competing in the near future.
 
As was mentioned last off-season, the Royals are a good match with any of Dozier, Merrifield, and Soler. But they seem like they are too dumb to trade valuable players even when they know they have no hopes of competing in the near future.

Have always been on Dozier, but wonder if his big year wasn't his career year - and a mirage. Is he really any better than Riley, and is he actually worth giving up much for? If he's not the 125 OPS+ guy he was during his breakout, aren't you better off spending a little money (even if that's bringing Duvall back) on a bridge to Waters next season? DMGM's not likely going to be interested in any of our non-essential arms, and Dozier's not likely going to move back to 3B, so what role is he going to have long-term? Maybe he could act as a cheap DH and would allow AA to play on Springer, but I'm just not sure we'd be a legitimate destination for him even if AA has room to add that type of salary. I've had Soler on my list since day one, but the question about whether DMGM would take anyone not named Riley or Waters in a deal for him is applicable there too.

An interesting name I hadn't thought about that popped up in an article on Pipeline this morning - Bobby Dalbec. He's blocked at 3B in Boston by Devers, Tristan Casas is coming fast, and Boston's desperate for pitching. Dalbec's a bit of a Riley clone (maybe slightly better at 3B defensively), but if you could get him for a package built around Wilson/Newk/Touki/Davidson/etc. level arms you could move Riley to LF and sign Pederson/Rosrio/Mazara and Shaw to pair with the two of them this year which COULD leave enough room to re-sign Ozuna, Cruz, or Brantley if the DH is in play. That way you don't block OR give up Waters, and you'd have one of Dalbec or Riley as a potential fallback option at 1B in 2022 in case they can't work something out with Freddie.
 
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A completely unlikely scenario that I keep thinking about is NYM becasue they have a new owner, they want to make a big splash, they NEED a true CF, their pitching behind Degrom (maybe Thor) is weak.

Michael Conforto - has only 1 year left on deal, very good OF that seems to be over injuries, would not block Drew Waters. The Mets then then sign Springer to play CF.

And the kind of "out of nowhere" deal AA tends to make.
 
A completely unlikely scenario that I keep thinking about is NYM becasue they have a new owner, they want to make a big splash, they NEED a true CF, their pitching behind Degrom (maybe Thor) is weak.

Michael Conforto - has only 1 year left on deal, very good OF that seems to be over injuries, would not block Drew Waters. The Mets then then sign Springer to play CF.

And the kind of "out of nowhere" deal AA tends to make.
So Mets help Braves you think so?
 
If the Braves are operating at a normal payroll, you might just be able to swing Merrifield, Turner, Bryant, or Seagar, and Ozuna.

I think it is more likely the Braves add two pieces and then shop at the deadline though.
 
A completely unlikely scenario that I keep thinking about is NYM becasue they have a new owner, they want to make a big splash, they NEED a true CF, their pitching behind Degrom (maybe Thor) is weak.

Michael Conforto - has only 1 year left on deal, very good OF that seems to be over injuries, would not block Drew Waters. The Mets then then sign Springer to play CF.

And the kind of "out of nowhere" deal AA tends to make.

These inter division trades rarely even happen. Aside from that, the Mets actually want to try and extend Conforto, not trade him.
 
Yes, indeed: he would provide outsized production, a synonym of which is “gross”.


You can call me old fashioned all you want, and talk about three true outcomes all you want.

But plunking a .200 BA down in the middle of the lineup and expecting that to go well when the chips are down is unwise, I think.
 
The winter meetings begin Monday....the past few years going in, I have been super excited expecting a major move from the Braves. However, we have been deeply disappointed with no moves (not complaining, it all worked out)...this year, I am expecting more of the same. AA will appear to stand pat, not making any moves, but possibly laying the ground work for a deal down the line this offseason.

Thoughts?
 
The winter meetings begin Monday....the past few years going in, I have been super excited expecting a major move from the Braves. However, we have been deeply disappointed with no moves (not complaining, it all worked out)...this year, I am expecting more of the same. AA will appear to stand pat, not making any moves, but possibly laying the ground work for a deal down the line this offseason.

Thoughts?

Yeah, I highly doubt we see much happen for Atlanta in terms of a big trade. Maybe something small but meh.
 
A completely unlikely scenario that I keep thinking about is NYM becasue they have a new owner, they want to make a big splash, they NEED a true CF, their pitching behind Degrom (maybe Thor) is weak.

Michael Conforto - has only 1 year left on deal, very good OF that seems to be over injuries, would not block Drew Waters. The Mets then then sign Springer to play CF.

And the kind of "out of nowhere" deal AA tends to make.

I'd love to get Conforto. But it aint happening.
 
I'd love to get Conforto. But it aint happening.

I doubt it happens, but my thoughts were that NYM just signed and tendered Matz & Gselman. Neither are solid. With Thor's health, they need depth pitching much more than we do. If they can sign a true CF (Springer) and if they have questions about Conforto resigning, then maybe. If...if...if...if...pretty low odds.

Something like Conforto for Wright, Davidson, Terone Harris.

Come to think of it, not sure I like that from Atl perspective. Maybe Wright & Harris only but that feels light to NYM.
 
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AA doesn't typically make moves at these meetings, so I am hoping the announcement about the DH happens Monday so teams can get to work. Position players would be foolish to sign until the DH situation is clear.

I still think AA will fill 2 offensive holes via FA with at least one of them being a RHH. The only question is whether he has $10M to do it, or $40M to do it. If AA has $40M and the DH spot to utilize, the Braves could have the best offense in the game.
 
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