Next Move?

sturg33 said:
I wouldn't mind grabbing Willin Rosario either
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I think he's a great buy-low candidate, but if the team is as disgusted with Bethancourt's defensive effort and lack of preparation as they seem to be, it's hard to imagine they'll go in for Rosario.
 
One of today's roster casualties that I'd like to see the Braves look into is Craig Gentry. Would fit as a RHH platoon partner for Bourn on the cheap. Plus baserunner and plus defender. Last 3 years against LHP: 261 / 348 / 349.
 
Miller and Jenkins for Baez and Soler. Play Baez at short and Soler in RF.

Trade Markakis to Baltimore for magic pixie dust and Aybar to the top bidder. Add another $17M or so to the $30M available and go sign Price or Greinke and a guy like Latos. Trade Teheran or keep him until the deadline THEN trade him.

Trade Freeman to Houston for Reed, Tucker and JD Davis.

Short term: CF Bourn/M Smith, LF Olivera, RF Soler, 1B Swisher/Reed, C AJ, SS Baez, 2B Petersen

SP: Grienke (my preference but would be ok with Price), Teheran (or Wisler if Teheran is traded), Wisler, Latos, Perez/Weber/Folty/ManBan

Pen: Viz, Krol, Grilli or Winkler, Withrow or Simmons, McKirahan or Marksberry, Cuniff or Burawa
 
Oklahomabrave said:
I really doubt they want to trade both and I don't think that would be enough if they did. Jenkins is arguably our 7th or 8th best pitching prospect.
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MLB has him listed as fourth and #5 prospect overall. If it took a little more, I would do it. Unless they ultimately plan to play Baez at 2B, then he has no place to play, but Soler has to be in the deal.
 
Horsehide Harry said:
MLB has him listed as fourth and #5 prospect overall. If it took a little more, I would do it. Unless they ultimately plan to play Baez at 2B, then he has no place to play, but Soler has to be in the deal.
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Yea no way you're getting Soler and Baez for Shelby and Jenkins.
 
emk418 said:
Yea no way you're getting Soler and Baez for Shelby and Jenkins.
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Maybe not but you try to build a deal for that. It might be Shelby, Jenkins and ManBan or something else. I will say that Miller plus Teheran is TOO much.

Personally, I still like Miller to Colorado for Dahl, McMahon and Nunez, but none of those guys are ready today which seems to be important to the Braves (I don't know why).
 
Horsehide Harry said:
Miller and Jenkins for Baez and Soler. Play Baez at short and Soler in RF.

Trade Markakis to Baltimore for magic pixie dust and Aybar to the top bidder. Add another $17M or so to the $30M available and go sign Price or Greinke and a guy like Latos. Trade Teheran or keep him until the deadline THEN trade him.

Trade Freeman to Houston for Reed, Tucker and JD Davis.

Short term: CF Bourn/M Smith, LF Olivera, RF Soler, 1B Swisher/Reed, C AJ, SS Baez, 2B Petersen

SP: Grienke (my preference but would be ok with Price), Teheran (or Wisler if Teheran is traded), Wisler, Latos, Perez/Weber/Folty/ManBan
Pen: Viz, Krol, Grilli or Winkler, Withrow or Simmons, McKirahan or Marksberry, Cuniff or Burawa
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You really think that Greinke and Price would consider the Braves for a second?
 
I'd be halfway interested in taking a shot at Carlos Tocci in the Rule 5 Draft. Alas, we aren't tanking.
 
nsacpi said:
You really think that Greinke and Price would consider the Braves for a second?
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Not if next year was to be their last and final season and opportunity to win. But it's not. Those guys are going to sign 5-7 year deals. If you are competitive on money then you have to sell them on the idea of building a winner for the majority of their contracts and playing in a place where their is great upside with relatively small amounts of downside.
 
Horsehide Harry said:
Maybe not but you try to build a deal for that. It might be Shelby, Jenkins and ManBan or something else. I will say that Miller plus Teheran is TOO much.

Personally, I still like Miller to Colorado for Dahl, McMahon and Nunez, but none of those guys are ready today which seems to be important to the Braves (I don't know why).
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You're too optimistic on your values for our guys. Of course we would do a Miller for Dahl/McMahon/Nunez deal, but the Rockies absolutely wouldn't. They may not even be willing to include Dahl in a deal for Miller at all, much less if paired with McMahon.
 
smootness said:
You're too optimistic on your values for our guys. Of course we would do a Miller for Dahl/McMahon/Nunez deal, but the Rockies absolutely wouldn't. They may not even be willing to include Dahl in a deal for Miller at all, much less if paired with McMahon.
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Look, I might be overvaluing these guys. If I were GM, the marketplace would tell me the value because I would be asking.

BUT, the Padres just got Margot, Guerra, Allen and Asuaje for a fairly expensive closer. Margot is listed as the 5th best OF prospect in baseball and #25 overall regardless of position by MLB. Guerra was listed as the 76th best prospect. Allen is a fine looking young lefty who showed out as an 18 yo. And Asuaje is projected to be a serviceable utility guy.

That was an ACTUAL deal. Meaning it was actually done.

Dahl was listed as the 47th best prospect. McMahon #50. Nunez is a catcher who isn't on the top lists. None of those players are players that the Rocks can't move or won't move. McMahon is blocked by Arenando. Dahl is blocked by Blackmon and Dickerson AND is an injury concern. Nunez is blocked by about 4 other catchers.

Miller, as a SP with three years of control left through the 18 season, is AT LEAST as valuable as Kimbrel who is a closer also signed through the 18 season (including option).

Would Colorado do the deal I proposed? Maybe not. But, it's the type deal "Coppy" should be trying to make since the cupboard for fringy pitching has been filled.
 
I'm hearing the Cubs, Giants, and Dodgers as suitors for Miller, but his value lies in his cost. I wouldn't be surprised to see a small market team jump into the mix. If you're a big market team this is the year to just buy your pitcher.
 
mqt said:
According to Shanks we're bringing back Carpenter.
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I'd think he'd accept a MiLB deal with an ST invite and opt-out. He's a good, cheap option. K rate and velocity down last year, but it was only 24 IP.
 
Chico said:
I'm hearing the Cubs, Giants, and Dodgers as suitors for Miller, but his value lies in his cost. I wouldn't be surprised to see a small market team jump into the mix. If you're a big market team this is the year to just buy your pitcher.
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