Official 2024 Off-Season Thread!

I really don't see a bidding war happening for Heyward and Rosario seems like the type that will need to wait til February/March before he signs.

This is a very valid point, and the guy at MLBTR agrees:

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2:14 Just a sample of the many questions about left field in here
2:15 I would decline the option on Rosario. $9MM isn't terrible for that player but it's borderline. I'd at least want to keep my options open going into the offseason. If other options don't present themselves, he'd probably still be amenable to a one-year deal in that price range in December"

I can respect both sides of this argument, however I fall on the side that wants to keep Rosario...unless a legit upgrade is in the works.

Assuming we are talking about a marginal upgrade like Heyward and/or a marginal cost savings like resigning Rosario later for $5M, I just don't see the point. Go ahead and answer that question early in the offseason with a known mediocre quantity so they can focus all resources on arms.
 
Lot's of good tidbits in here: https://live.jotcast.com/chat/braves-outlook-23-16692.html

Non-tendering Lopez is a terrible idea to save $3M.

Lots of moronic questions I'm surprised he bothered answering to be honest. Must have been a light queue.

I think they'd be crazy to let Lopez walk. Arcia did well in 2023, but an established insurance policy wouldn't be the worst thing to have around

.Some moronic questions, but I didn't agree with several of his answers.
 
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And who are we trading to get a premier young talent that has affordable control left?

I think the value other teams assign to Grissom may vary greatly. Perhaps a team values him as an adequate SS defender who will grow into some more power?

Very hard to say, but Grissom clearly has no place on this Braves roster, and in my opinion now is the time to convert him into an answer in LF or on the mound. Lopez covers whatever Grissom would be expected to do for the team as it's currently constructed.
 
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If we're selecting our platoon LF based on defense we're doing it wrong.

Heyward seems much more likely to regress to the sub-.700 OPS guy he was for most of his Cubs deal than what he showed last year in LA.

It is remarkable how every year someone figures out a way to make a case for Heyward.
 
I suspect Nicky would be amenable to a three year contract that looks a little bit like the Arcia one from last year. He would then be easy to trade if they decided they didn’t want to keep him. I suspect, however, that he would be valuable enough to keep for the duration of the contract.
 
I think they'd be crazy to let Lopez walk. Arcia did well in 2023, but an established insurance policy wouldn't be the worst thing to have around

.Some moronic questions, but I didn't agree with several of his answers.

I don't know why his salary would be considered a big number for a team in Braves position. Seems pretty reasonable to me to have 6 m in shortstops.
 
Having one SS on a great team friendly deal is not really a good justification for overpaying the other one… even if it is just by a little.

I suspect the years would be valuable enough to tempt Lopez.
 
Just so I'm clear...

Folks are proposing Lopez carries so little value that the Braves should give up the right to pay him $4M over a single season, and instead give him more guaranteed total money over multiple seasons...just to save $1M-$2M in 2024?

Do we understand how silly this sounds? He is either valuable enough to guarantee multiple years, or he's not valuable enough to pay $4M in 2024. He can't be both.
 
Is it one poster or “people”?

I know you enjoy soap boxing everyone and imma let you finnish but let’s not over dramatize it
 
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Nicky at $4m for next year strikes me as a fantastic backup/contingency option. I’d like to see him get more time next year tbh. The defense is real and it’s spectacular.
 
Having one SS on a great team friendly deal is not really a good justification for overpaying the other one… even if it is just by a little.

I suspect the years would be valuable enough to tempt Lopez.

Since when is 4ish million over-paying for a quality back-up (and borderline starting SS) that can fill in at multiple spots? Even at 6-7 million, that is still pretty valuable.
 
Nicky at $4m for next year strikes me as a fantastic backup/contingency option. I’d like to see him get more time next year tbh. The defense is real and it’s spectacular.

Especially since there really aren't any of those glove only, league minimum guys in the minors that you kinda see used in this spot
 
I am not the smartest baseball fan, but I was thinking how much Acuna and that contract would bring. We did as well without him in the postseason. Go get Ohtani.

Ronnie is owed 85M over the next 5 years maximum. Shohei will clear that in 2 years. If we wanted to clear more salary, trading Riley or Olson would make more sense.

The only way you trade Acuna is if you're trying to rebuild. We won the World Series without him, but not because he wasn't on the team. If Acuna wasn't on the team we would have not sniffed the playoffs.
 
Bidding war was probably the wrong term, but if the Braves budget < $10 MM and Heyward wants > $10 MM, he'll likely follow the money. Hard to believe we are talking between $8 MM and $10 MM for guys like Rosario and Heyward.

I understand the fear. To me it's an interesting gambit, but I don't like Rosario that much. Don't hate him, but I don't really like him.

Personalyl what I'd do is decline his option and go after Joc. But I know he'll cost more than Rosario.
 
This is a very valid point, and the guy at MLBTR agrees:

"... I fall on the side that wants to keep Rosario...unless a legit upgrade is in the works.
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Well, certainly we exercise the option on Rosario. Not only is he a decent enough hitter, he's now a Gold Glove Finalist. That's worth $5M right there.
 
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