Official CBA Negotiation Thread

CrimsonCowboy said:
And so much for the good vibes
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Chelsea Janes
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Players are currently considering walking away from the table, per a person familiar with their plans. Made what they felt was a substantive offer and owners rejected it. Players furious.
 
The players have been making much larger concessions than the owners, and are rightfully frustrated. The owners are essentially offering a worse deal than the previous one…trivial increases in the min salary, and harsher penalties for exceeding the cap.

I’ve now lost all hope of the regular season not being impacted. The players quite simply can’t accept what the owners are offering.
 
Enscheff said:
The players have been making much larger concessions than the owners, and are rightfully frustrated. The owners are essentially offering a worse deal than the previous one…trivial increases in the min salary, and harsher penalties for exceeding the cap.

I’ve now lost all hope of the regular season not being impacted. The players quite simply can’t accept what the owners are offering.
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It seems like they're trying to break the union.
 
DirkPiggler said:
It seems like they're trying to break the union.
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That's what's so frustrating here. The players started not-unreasonably high, and have made subsequent concessions, all with the primary goal of getting more money to younger and/or minimum-salary players, and a secondary goal of keeping teams throughout the league spending on talent. The owners' goal, meanwhile, is simply to break the union; they're not even really making concessions.
 
jpx7 said:
That's what's so frustrating here. The players started not-unreasonably high, and have made subsequent concessions, all with the primary goal of getting more money to younger and/or minimum-salary players, and a secondary goal of keeping teams throughout the league spending on talent. The owners' goal, meanwhile, is simply to break the union; they're not even really making concessions.
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What if MLB thinks they can actually do it?
 
jpx7 said:
Then we're going to be watching 2021 playoff highlights to get our baseball fix for a while.
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For sure. I’m just saying if MLB thought it could break the union would they be willing to sacrifice a season or two to make it happen? What’s the full chess game on this?
 
Slippyjms said:
For sure. I’m just saying if MLB thought it could break the union would they be willing to sacrifice a season or two to make it happen? What’s the full chess game on this?
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I highly doubt MLB owners will be willing to sacrifice a full season (and potentially the future of the sport) for this. This isn't 94. Social media has allowed for players to have a voice and for fans to be better informed. A lockout looks far worse for the owners than it does the players. Especially given it's already been reported the player's have made many concessions already in negotiations.
 
Please get this settled... miss state basketball appears to be done, and I'm ready to move on to the braves
 
Carp said:
I highly doubt MLB owners will be willing to sacrifice a full season (and potentially the future of the sport) for this. This isn't 94. Social media has allowed for players to have a voice and for fans to be better informed. A lockout looks far worse for the owners than it does the players. Especially given it's already been reported the player's have made many concessions already in negotiations.
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If MLB isn’t willing to sacrifice the season it doesn’t seem like they are truly committed to breaking the union. So what’s the end game? A defacto salary cap? Most players are still pre-arb. Eventually they’ll need to start getting their checks so create pressure there?
 
well, today is the day

we find out if we will have a full season or if the owners will purposefully shorten it
 
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