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Southcack77 said:
Haseley .399/.498/.683 208 AB 14 HR 41/20 (BB/K) 10/14 SB.

Somewhat successful pitcher at college level with FB perhaps touching 90. Definite draft as hitter. I think the weight of what I've read suggests his defense would probably play a little better in a corner, but could possibly handle center. I think that makes him a little bit of a tweener/possibl fourth OF. If his power does not continue moving up it seems a little light.

Would not be my preference, but it seems like a bet on his power. I like the apparent hit tool.

Still, Maybe I'm trying to force fit big potential into a bad draft, but I'd rather take the tools of an Adell and Beck and roll the dice on what they become as far as OF goes.
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I don't agree on the tweener/4th OF profile. I think we're too quick to see a corner OF without big power as a bench guy when that shouldn't be the case at all. If he can play above-average defense in a corner with an above-average hit tool, even with roughly average power (or even slightly below), that is a clear starting OF with value.

I do agree, though, that I'd rather go Adell or Beck.
 
smootness said:
I don't agree on the tweener/4th OF profile. I think we're too quick to see a corner OF without big power as a bench guy when that shouldn't be the case at all. If he can play above-average defense in a corner with an above-average hit tool, even with roughly average power (or even slightly below), that is a clear starting OF with value.

I do agree, though, that I'd rather go Adell or Beck.
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That's fair, but if his power is below average the team will need to compensate elsewhere. If you think his power turns out to be average for a corner then he clearly projects as a starter.
 
Southcack77 said:
That's fair, but if his power is below average the team will need to compensate elsewhere. If you think his power turns out to be average for a corner then he clearly projects as a starter.
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I just don't subscribe to this theory of team building. You need good players throughout the lineup. Haseley projects to be a good player.
 
Haseley would be an even less-BPA pick than Pratto.

Not stoked at all about the recent rumblings I'm hearing about who the Braves will pick at 5.
 
smootness said:
I just don't subscribe to this theory of team building. You need good players throughout the lineup. Haseley projects to be a good player.
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There are a lot of different ways to win, but I don't think a lineup lacking in power is a high percentage way of doing that.

It's funny, I thought at the time of the 98 Yankees as a team that didn't have thumpers, but 8/9 regulars had 15 homers or more. None of them had 30 though. That seems like (and probably is) a digression, but the idea of good hitters throughout the lineup led me there. That was a extraordinary good team - sorry to state the obvious.
 
Enscheff said:
Haseley would be an even less-BPA pick than Pratto.

Not stoked at all about the recent rumblings I'm hearing about who the Braves will pick at 5.
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Well the one positive is it sounds like these publications are basing their projections on past Brave draft behavior and no insider knowledge.
 
Enscheff said:
Haseley would be an even less-BPA pick than Pratto.

Not stoked at all about the recent rumblings I'm hearing about who the Braves will pick at 5.
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Most of these national guys don't seem to really have inside information on anything. You've seen them allude to the Braves potentially trying to save money at 5, but that is almost certainly just because we signed Anderson for so much under slot last year. It makes much less sense for us to go that route this year, so they're likely just taking last year and offering possibilities.

And nobody had us taking Anderson until right before the draft last year.
 
Enscheff said:
Haseley would be an even less-BPA pick than Pratto.
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Based on what?? A few blurbs you've read? Lower upside than a guy like Beck probably, but also higher floor.

Lots of people want Adell or Beck, but Pipeline has Haseley at #14 and Adell at #22, sounds like they think higher of the Haseley.

Grades per Pipeline:

Beck
Hit - 50 Power - 55 Run - 60 Arm - 60 Field - 55 Overall - 55

Haseley
Hit - 55 Power - 45 Run - 55 Arm - 50 Field - 55 Overall - 55

Adell
Hit - 45 Power - 55 Run - 65 Arm - 60 Field - 60 Overall - 50

I can absolutely get behind the idea of Haseley if he's got the best hit tool among these three and still projects as above average runner/fielder. That'll play very nicely to get a more advanced bat that can 'catch up' to the guys like Swanson/Allard.
 
That being said. He would be a much better pick than Pratto. Not sure what in he world Enscheff is basing that off of.
 
zbhargrove said:
That being said. He would be a much better pick than Pratto. Not sure what in he world Enscheff is basing that off of.
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Haseley would clearly be a pick to save money at 5. When that money is used to draft an injured pitcher at 41, will you Posi-Braves be singing and dancing like usual?
 
Enscheff said:
Haseley would clearly be a pick to save money at 5. When that money is used to draft an injured pitcher at 41, will you Posi-Braves be singing and dancing like usual?
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Again why is that clear? He's ranked higher on Pipeline than Adell who a lot of people on this board want at #5, he's got the same FV as Beck. Simply because he might be a late-riser and didn't have as much hype early in the year he's 'clearly' a reach at 5? There's a big bust-potential you have to factor in with Adell/Beck/Lewis.

Fans get way too caught up in early rankings for draft prospects and start taking it for gospel.
 
Enscheff said:
Haseley would clearly be a pick to save money at 5. When that money is used to draft an injured pitcher at 41, will you Posi-Braves be singing and dancing like usual?
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I never said it wouldn't be a money saving move. You said it'd be worse than Pratto... it clearly wouldn't be. I still don't think it's the way they will go because it's all speculation based on previous draft style and the circumstances are completely different this year. But thanks for the lack or reading comprehension as always.
 
And even Pratto is 10th on Pipeline's big board with a 60 hit tool, 50 power and 60 field.

There just isn't a lot that separates these guys when you get past the top couple.

Looking at HS bats would you rather take a chance on Adell's high upside but questionable hit tool, or Prattos 1st base only profile but safer hit tool? Its easy to say Adell, but there's a higher chance a guy like that washes out and you get nothing from a top-5 pick.
 
The note that stood out to me the most from the BA mock was Beck falling to 26:

"North Carolina prep outfielder Austin Beck was losing draft helium as June approached, less because of his performance and more due to the glut of prep outfielders and his shorter track record."
 
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