Offseason Hot Stove 2024-25 Thread

Hudson2 said:
I still wonder if SD wouldn't have interest in Kelenic with being so thin on OF'ers.
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With the signing of Profar, Kelenic officially becomes the 4th OF (at least when Acuna returns). I thought that Anthopoulos might try to package him with a couple of our pitching prospects (or maybe Alvarez) to upgrade LF or SS through the trade route.
 
Enscheff said:
Looking at the Burnes trade last year is also informative when it comes to a potential Cease trade.

The Os gave up Joey Ortiz (2B #42 overall FV 50), DL Hall (post-hype FV 50 BP arm), and the 34th pick (typically a FV 40+ guy).

The equivalent is Nacho (2B/3B #49 overall FV 50), Waldrep (stock falling FV 50 SP), and some guy just outside the Top 10 in the system.

That package was considered steep at the time for Burnes, and Cease is not as valuable as Burnes. Nacho plus some non-AJSS arms should be enough for Cease. Nacho plus AJSS would be an overpay. Baldwin should be a clear nonstarter in these trade talks.
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With you on the overall logic, but Alvarez is no way (at least at this juncture) as good a player as Oritz.
 
50PoundHead said:
With the signing of Profar, Kelenic officially becomes the 4th OF (at least when Acuna returns). I thought that Anthopoulos might try to package him with a couple of our pitching prospects (or maybe Alvarez) to upgrade LF or SS through the trade route.
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Kelenic is more likely going to be sent to AAA if everyone is healthy when Acuna returns. He's a long term investment and we'd be better served by stopping his service time while letting him get ABs everyday rather than rotting on the bench.
 
Enscheff said:
When I analyzed Waldrep’s pitch data there didn’t seem to be anything worth getting excited about. The split was very underwhelming. Unless something has dramatically changed, I don’t see how he’s a MLB quality SP.

The worst part about it is the Braves should have had some of that data for him from college, and they still drafted him.

44 seems low for Baldwin. AJSS has always gotten a “meh” from me, so 85 seems reasonable.
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This makes me wonder if someone tinkered with Waldrep's delivery or grip or something that negatively impacted his splitter. Because you're right the Braves almost certainly had data on his pitches.

It makes more sense to me that the data was better pre-draft and something changed after. I don't see AA going that high with the data as is and I can't imagine AA drafting him blind.
 
striker42 said:
This makes me wonder if someone tinkered with Waldrep's delivery or grip or something that negatively impacted his splitter. Because you're right the Braves almost certainly had data on his pitches.

It makes more sense to me that the data was better pre-draft and something changed after. I don't see AA going that high with the data as is and I can't imagine AA drafting him blind.
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I agree. Something is up and hopefully they either change it or go back to how it was bc whatever they did didn't work at all.
 
telling you. AA is trying to trade for someone who will keep the team under the cap and that is his only move right now. He doesn't want to have another year of penalties for a Flahtery type signing..
 
I mean 15 million for a guy like Max.. even at his age, that is a fair and even good deal for a team in need of another pitcher like the Braves... more writing on the wall that I am right.
 
bravesfanMatt said:
telling you. AA is trying to trade for someone who will keep the team under the cap and that is his only move right now. He doesn't want to have another year of penalties for a Flahtery type signing..
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Based on the scuttled Jeff Hoffman deal that Bowman reported as 5 years, $45-48 million, this is my working assumption as well. BAL and TOR each offered Hoffman 3 years. I think the Braves were motivated to outbid them in years more so than AAV in order to keep the CBT valuation in the $9-10 million range. This approach would afford them flexibility to add an OF bat (which ended up being Profar) and possibly a modest reliever while staying under the $241 million CBT number. It's obviously just speculation on my part, but it's made me think that any SP acquisition via trade or free agency will end up being no more than $10 million AAV.
 
UNCBlue012 said:
The Mets are reportedly in talks for Cease, according to SYNtv.
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Per @JonHeyman the Mets are in talks with the San Diego Padres in regard to SP Dylan Cease.

Brandon Sproat, Jett Williams, and Luisangel Acuna were all listed as potential package names.

What would be the equivalent for us?
 
Hate seeing Scherzer go to the Blue Jays - especially if it means that they are no longer pursuing Pete Alonso. I want so badly to laugh at Met’s fans if they aren’t able to re-sign him….
 
striker42 said:
This makes me wonder if someone tinkered with Waldrep's delivery or grip or something that negatively impacted his splitter. Because you're right the Braves almost certainly had data on his pitches.

It makes more sense to me that the data was better pre-draft and something changed after. I don't see AA going that high with the data as is and I can't imagine AA drafting him blind.
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It also wasn’t just the Braves. The pick was universally praised as a homerun at first with many saying he had the best pitch in the draft
 
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