REAL FOOTBALL Thread

Falcons rookies continue to play VERY well. Hitting on the first 4 picks in impressive. Last years 2nd rounder is filling in nicely for Trufant. The defense really has improved a good bit. Not saying they are perfect, but much improved. The increased speed is evident.
 
gilesfan said:
Im assuming he's playing to his previous ability in practices and such. Romo can get the team in the right plays; he can also make tough throws. I know he is a choke artist, but do you really trust a rookie QB in the playoffs? Dak has been good, but it's all just hand the ball off and make short throws. Seems they don't move the ball much against good defenses: NYG, Min, etc. Though they did move it well vs. Philly.
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I don't think there's any question that a "Romo clicking on all cylinders" would be scarier and more offensively productive than Dak, at this point in his career, but as I stated, or at least tried to state, in my previous post the Cowboys are much more talented than they were last year but they still aren't as talented as they are just really playing well together right now. Right now it's the chemistry of the team playing as one and rallying around Dak and Zeke that has them at 12-2, plus some other teams having some unexpectedly down seasons. They have won most of the games they've won by just playing well and playing together and just finding a way to get the job done at the end of the game. They could easily have lost most of the games they won, and they could easily have won both games against the vaGiants. The chemistry and the comradery (sp?) is what's getting them by right now. They believe they can win with Dak and with each other. That may well give out on them somewhere along the line, especially if they were to make it to the Super Bowl against the Pats, that one could get ugly. But IMO the surest way for them to crash and burn as a team is to mess with anything that's causing the chemistry to happen and to work and that starts with Dak and Zeke.

Just my opinions thought.
 
Yeah, I see that point of view, Hawk. I just look at it from a defense; who would they rather face?
 
Can someone explain to me why Matt Ryan isn't receiving more MVP consideration? I continue to see Zeke, Carr, Prescott, and Brady in front of him on lists. I can see the argument for Elliot, but I don't see how you don't give it to the QB who is having a historically great year.
 
chop2chip said:
Can someone explain to me why Matt Ryan isn't receiving more MVP consideration? I continue to see Zeke, Carr, Prescott, and Brady in front of him on lists. I can see the argument for Elliot, but I don't see how you don't give it to the QB who is having a historically great year.
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who?
 
chop2chip said:
Can someone explain to me why Matt Ryan isn't receiving more MVP consideration? I continue to see Zeke, Carr, Prescott, and Brady in front of him on lists. I can see the argument for Elliot, but I don't see how you don't give it to the QB who is having a historically great year.
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Well he hasn't been throwing it much in garbage time to inflate the numbers, but yeah I haven't seen a whole lot to make me think he HASN'T been one of the Most Valuable Players. Right there IMO...
 
gilesfan said:
Yeah, I see that point of view, Hawk. I just look at it from a defense; who would they rather face?
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I think a strong run defense, especially one that can do it without putting 8-9 men in the box could beat the Cowboys. That's the way teams used to do it against the great Dallas teams of the 90s. But when you put 8 guys in the box to stop the run back then Aikman had a guaranteed 1 on 1 with Irvin, Harper, and Novacek and you have to like the odds that one of those 3 would be able to get open. If you do that with today's Cowboys you'd be guaranteed a 1 on 1 with Dez, Williams, and Witten. I like Wittens chances to get open but only get 1 or 2 yards YAC most of the time, Williams is very up and down and unreliable and don't even get me started trying to figure out which Dez is gonna show up from week to week.
 
Ryan should win MVP if the normal candidacy is considered, which typically is the best QB in the NFL. When you look all the way back to 2000, only 4 RBs won it, all in record breaking seasons. And Matt Ryan has been the best QB in the NFL this year. He hasn't been padding his stats, So sure he doesn't have the Yards that Brees does or Cousins does or the TDs of Brees and he may only be tied with Rodgers in TDs, but he has like 100 less attempts than those guys.

In 3 advanced stats, here are Ryan's rankings.

DYAR - 1
DVOA - 1
TotalQBR - 1

No one deserves the MVP over Ryan,Elliot is my number 2, Brady my 3, and Prescott the 4.
 
I think Ryan's chances at MVP have been hurt by the lack of having Julio Jones in the lineup much of this season. Now it should help him that he still has such great stats with guys most of us have never heard of, but that sort of "street cred" only seems to help people like Brady and to a lesser extent Rodgers. I think Ryan is terrific and always have, but this is why I don't think he'll win it. Imagine the kind of cartoon numbers he could be putting up with a healthy Julio, and a Roddy White and Tony Gonzalez in their primes.
 
gilesfan said:
Why is turnover margin a red flag?
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Because you don't want to turn the ball over. THat being said, Washington's ratio is because they aren't getting turnovers on defense. They're 18th in the NFL in giveaways, which isn't a stellar number, but it's ahrdly as damning as their turnover ratio which ranks tied for 21st worst.

But for a team constructed like the Falcons, I'd for sure rather face the Lions who won't give it away easily, but also won't take it away easily and let teams march on them.
 
gilesfan said:
Cousins is mind boggling sometimes. He looks like a top 5 QB for a couple weeks and then has a game like last night, which was awful. Skins are built right now to have a ton of weapons and need a QB to make plays for mediocre defense. Last night Cousins lost them the game.

The Lions are a complete pretender. If I was the Falcons, I would be rooting for Detroit matchup. Neither the offense or defense is very good.

TB has some talent. Kinda averagish offense and defense.

Skins are mediocre on defense, but they could possibly put up a lot of points on the Falcons. I don't think the Lions or TB would do the same.
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He had zero help from his skill players on Monday night. Drops and stupid plays from Reed were their downfalls. Not too mention that rushing attack and defense that J-Stew chewed up all night long. Cousins made a terrible decision and an even worse throw on the interception, but he wasn't the reason they lost.
 
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