REAL FOOTBALL Thread

BRule said:
He said some crap about him not being the same, not as fast, not the same player, etc....RG3 got pissy and challenged him to a race. I know you remember this.
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Send me the link to Garcon calling him out. It should be available, right?

If he said RG3 wasnt as fast, was he claiming RG3 was still injured? Is that throwing the QB under the bus?
 
If you read what I wrote, difficult, I know, I said "Garcon called out RG3"....which he did. I don't know about YOU but if you say a player isn't the same and worse in certain areas...I would say you're calling that player out. But I'm not a RG3 homer, so maybe I'm wrong.
 
The impetus behind Santana Moss' radio comments regarding Redskins players taking the onus for making mistakes was assumed to be about Robert Griffin III's postgame comments.

Of course, there was more to the backstory.

CSN Washington's Chick Hernandez, citing team sources, reported Wednesday that RGIII called the wrong protection on the Redskins' final play of Sunday's loss to the Eagles, which led to an interception. Griffin said "no one got open" after the miscommunication, which initially rubbed teammates the wrong way.

That could explain Moss' original "say me or I," comment.

Call the wrong protection, then blame your WR's for not being open and throwing an INT

You get ALL of the LULZ, Mr. Griffin.
 
BRule said:
"People within the Redskins have a nickname for RG3, it's RGMe"

Jason Cole
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WHo is Jason Cole and why does everyone that follows the team, both in the Washington Post (who is anti-Skins bc of Snyder) or ESPN (John Keim) say differently?

I sought a handful of HOT TAKE providers and posed the real question lingering underneath all of this controversy: Do the Redskins have a douchebag at quarterback? Here are their answers!

Spencer Hall: "The proper and deeply unfun answer would be that I personally have no idea. I know people who know him, and have worked with him, and they said he was fine. But like… you want good people who also happen to be athletes, and I know personally a sum total of like five."

Matt Terl (former official Skins blogger): "He comes off as very corporate and maybe a bit weird, but I just can't go with douchebag. I dunno."

Andy Behrens: "I'd say that he is not unusually douchebaggish, relative to the standard-issue NFL or FBS quarterback."

Andrew Sharp: "No. His biggest problems this year have been A) still being hurt B) saying yes to the worst marketing ideas ever, and C) being clueless with the media and how he's perceived. It's all made the past nine months pretty awful, but that doesn't necessarily make *him* awful. To be a true douchebag you have to actively treat people like ****, and I don't think RG3's done that in DC. Unless you count Mike Shanahan, who definitely deserves it."

@PFTCommenter: "Is he RG-DB? In terms of being literally a Douchebag the Redskins QB position DOES have the slimy stench of falure and it hadnt seen any decent play in years,, but RG3-13 isnt doing anything to cover up the odor if anything hes making it worse. Douchebag also implies that your useful and you can get the job done when Cox is getting inside pressure on you folks which is clearly not the case with Griffin. A douchebag is someone like a Cam Newton whose making the Panthers smell like roses,, warts 'n all but once the perfume wears out, you pull back the curtins and the gloves are off you realize your in too deep and your left gasping for air folks."

Steve Czaban: "Nah. Diva? Possibly. Probably. Sorta. Maybe. Let's just wait and see, and hope if you are a Redskins fan. Because the thought of giving up so much for a gazelle-legged, not-yet-pocket-ready passer WHO IS ALSO A DOUCHEBAG.... is simply too much to bear. Answer: No* (*Retains all future rights to amend this early hopeful stance at a later date as developments warrant.)"

Pete Prisco(!): "No, I do not. Do I think he's a great QB? No, I do not."

Dan Wetzel: "No. But he's a little different than the average guy. He likes themed socks. Not necessarily a bad thing. Not necessarily a good thing. But it's something."

Will Leitch: "No."

Marchman: "Yeah. He's kind of young A-Rod-ish."

Florio: "I checked urban dictionary. Of the seven options, this one caught my eye: 'An individual who has an over-inflated sense of self worth, compounded by a low level of intelligence, behaving ridiculously in front of colleagues with no sense of how moronic he appears.' Under that definition, it seems like some of Griffin’s teammates would be inclined to apply the label. I’ll defer to their expertise—or to Mike Shanahan’s opinion after he is fired next month."

Anonymous: "Dude wants to be liked by everybody. He will do anything or say anything to win approval. Is he a bad guy? I have no idea. He's 23. If people wrote **** I did when I was 23 I would be screwed—including stealing a toaster for fun from a friend's house whose rug I puked on."

Matt Ufford: "Not any more than the average 23-year-old male."

Matt Taibbi: "Yes."

So there you go. SCIENCE has proven that the answer is a wavering "No" on the issue. But here is what I think: I think that RGIII is a talented player who is poorly handled and has been given the full Clinton Portis treatment by Skins owner Dan Snyder, which means he has carte blanche to decide what is best both for him and the Redskins as a team. I also think he'll get injured again. That doesn't make RGIII a douchebag. It just means he's doomed. I don't want that to be the case. I loved watching him play last year, and I don't want there to be any cracks in the facade even though they're there and they are multiplying and eventually they will end him. But otherwise, he's solid. SO REST EASY, GANG!
 
gilesfan said:
WHo is Jason Cole and why does everyone that follows the team, both in the Washington Post (who is anti-Skins bc of Snyder) or ESPN (John Keim) say differently?

I sought a handful of HOT TAKE providers and posed the real question lingering underneath all of this controversy: Do the Redskins have a douchebag at quarterback? Here are their answers!

Spencer Hall: "The proper and deeply unfun answer would be that I personally have no idea. I know people who know him, and have worked with him, and they said he was fine. But like… you want good people who also happen to be athletes, and I know personally a sum total of like five."

Matt Terl (former official Skins blogger): "He comes off as very corporate and maybe a bit weird, but I just can't go with douchebag. I dunno."

Andy Behrens: "I'd say that he is not unusually douchebaggish, relative to the standard-issue NFL or FBS quarterback."

Andrew Sharp: "No. His biggest problems this year have been A) still being hurt B) saying yes to the worst marketing ideas ever, and C) being clueless with the media and how he's perceived. It's all made the past nine months pretty awful, but that doesn't necessarily make *him* awful. To be a true douchebag you have to actively treat people like ****, and I don't think RG3's done that in DC. Unless you count Mike Shanahan, who definitely deserves it."

@PFTCommenter: "Is he RG-DB? In terms of being literally a Douchebag the Redskins QB position DOES have the slimy stench of falure and it hadnt seen any decent play in years,, but RG3-13 isnt doing anything to cover up the odor if anything hes making it worse. Douchebag also implies that your useful and you can get the job done when Cox is getting inside pressure on you folks which is clearly not the case with Griffin. A douchebag is someone like a Cam Newton whose making the Panthers smell like roses,, warts 'n all but once the perfume wears out, you pull back the curtins and the gloves are off you realize your in too deep and your left gasping for air folks."

Steve Czaban: "Nah. Diva? Possibly. Probably. Sorta. Maybe. Let's just wait and see, and hope if you are a Redskins fan. Because the thought of giving up so much for a gazelle-legged, not-yet-pocket-ready passer WHO IS ALSO A DOUCHEBAG.... is simply too much to bear. Answer: No* (*Retains all future rights to amend this early hopeful stance at a later date as developments warrant.)"

Pete Prisco(!): "No, I do not. Do I think he's a great QB? No, I do not."

Dan Wetzel: "No. But he's a little different than the average guy. He likes themed socks. Not necessarily a bad thing. Not necessarily a good thing. But it's something."

Will Leitch: "No."

Marchman: "Yeah. He's kind of young A-Rod-ish."

Florio: "I checked urban dictionary. Of the seven options, this one caught my eye: 'An individual who has an over-inflated sense of self worth, compounded by a low level of intelligence, behaving ridiculously in front of colleagues with no sense of how moronic he appears.' Under that definition, it seems like some of Griffin’s teammates would be inclined to apply the label. I’ll defer to their expertise—or to Mike Shanahan’s opinion after he is fired next month."

Anonymous: "Dude wants to be liked by everybody. He will do anything or say anything to win approval. Is he a bad guy? I have no idea. He's 23. If people wrote **** I did when I was 23 I would be screwed—including stealing a toaster for fun from a friend's house whose rug I puked on."

Matt Ufford: "Not any more than the average 23-year-old male."

Matt Taibbi: "Yes."

So there you go. SCIENCE has proven that the answer is a wavering "No" on the issue. But here is what I think: I think that RGIII is a talented player who is poorly handled and has been given the full Clinton Portis treatment by Skins owner Dan Snyder, which means he has carte blanche to decide what is best both for him and the Redskins as a team. I also think he'll get injured again. That doesn't make RGIII a douchebag. It just means he's doomed. I don't want that to be the case. I loved watching him play last year, and I don't want there to be any cracks in the facade even though they're there and they are multiplying and eventually they will end him. But otherwise, he's solid. SO REST EASY, GANG!
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Can always count on Ufford for a good perspective.
 
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