I don’t not want the government to find waste, especially in the Department of Defense. I just don’t have enough trust in Elon Musk to illegally have him do so and then spend the rest of his day on his social media site claiming spending he doesn’t agree with is evidence of massive fraud and theft by lawmakers and pointing to their objections as further evidence they’re personally getting paid off.
Second ('Third') Trump Presidency Thread
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I don’t not want the government to find waste, especially in the Department of Defense. I just don’t have enough trust in Elon Musk to illegally have him do so and then spend the rest of his day on his social media site claiming spending he doesn’t agree with is evidence of massive fraud and theft by lawmakers and pointing to their objections as further evidence they’re personally getting paid off.
I have noticed a lot of uproar over what is essentially common employee training that any company would pay for. The contracts might be too expensive in some of the cases, but people are focused on the description of some sort of training sounding woke when it’s actually just basic employer ****. Hopefully we can see some positives like a more transparent system for contract awards and such. Auditing the government for waste is worthwhile, I’m mostly frustrated by the sensationalism surrounding some of it.
But can you perhaps admit it might not be a good long-term strategy for the President of the United States to just declare he’s going to do some catastrophically stupid thing for “leverage” and then follow it up by just not doing it at all? Seems to create a bunch of unnecessary trouble for everybody else.
One thing I will say in defense of Elon Musk and his gaggle of rugrats is that I don’t understand why people are going after them for anything being done by them that might be illegal. Just as Elon Musk shouldn’t have as unfettered of access to the systems he’s in, he also doesn’t have accountability for that access. I’ve seen a lot of people claiming very loudly that the DOGE team should be put in prison for some of their actions, but it sure seems like leadership within these government departments just gave them what they wanted. Elon and company aren’t “stealing” funding or anything (well, hopefully not), they’re just doing what they said they would and other folks are giving them access they might not legally be allowed to have.
If the president of the united states is giving authority to someone to review anything within the executive branch then nothing that person is doing is illegal (absent fraud/embezzelment/etc...)
Maybe the courts will determine it isn’t illegal, but from what I’ve read it doesn’t sound like some of what’s been done is within the purview of the Executive Branch, particularly from a “special government employee”
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
If you think almost everything USAID did was to liberal only, you're deluded.
I know it fits your narrative. But call me unconvinced that someone with an agenda like Elon wouldn't be pushing it.
To be fair, I legitimately thought that’s what the CIA essentially existed to do since its inception. If the CIA even is doing more left-wing stuff than right-wing, the only change in its mission would be the political leaning of its mission of ****ery.
chop2chip
Well-known member
Basically this.
People want results over process.
The message that Congress controls the power of the purse is gonna fall on deaf ears given the context this is shutting down billions of dollars of foreign “aid”
Thomas Sowell put it best "for bureaucrats procedure is everything and outcomes are nothing"
People want results. People that voted for Trump want this.
I’m not asking Trump supporters to care about the process, but I do hope the courts do.
Its an endless slush fund at the expense of the American taxpayer.
The people fighting this are either on the take or mad that their side didn't do this first.