Snit Watch

Carp said:
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Again, I don't think Snit necessarily had to lie for what I said to be true. It doesn't have to be black and white.

What we know is that Snit has been non-committal on the subject, but often talked about returning for next year. And we also know that AA has largely avoided the discussion but has also been non-committal about Snit coming back. Snit also had an expiring contract. So there is plenty of reason to speculate that AA was ready to move on. For reference, Snit said just 1 week ago that the Braves had not reached out to him about his future. So quite clearly, Alex was in no hurry to re-sign him. And like 2 weeks before that, AA said that no decisions had been made about Snit's future.

Maybe Snit saw the writing on the wall when he wasn't offered a contract extension after last season, like he had been offered the previous 2 times leading into the final years of those contracts. Perhaps he had been hopeful they would offer it up during the season, but as the season played out and the team played worse, he rightfully assumed an extension wasn't coming.

I think anyone who has worked under a contract before can tell you that when the end of your contract draws near, and they haven't approached you about staying on, then it's a good assumption that they probably aren't going to offer you to stay on.


So yeah, I think it's plenty fair to speculate.
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Yeah, i dont think it's too crazy to think AA didnt want Snit back. Maybe Snit made it on his own but if you read between the lines, it's not hard to see what happened.
 
Carp said:
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Again, I don't think Snit necessarily had to "lie" for what I said to be true. It doesn't have to be black and white.

What we know is that he has been non-committal, often talking about returning for next year. And we also know that AA has largely avoided the discussion and has also been non-committal about Snit coming back. Snit also had an expiring contract. So there is plenty of reason to speculate that AA was ready to move on.

Maybe Snit saw the writing on the wall when he wasn't offered a contract extension after last season, like he had been offered the previous 2 times leading into the final years of those contracts. Perhaps he had been hopeful they would offer it up during the season, but as the season played out and the team played worse we got, he rightfully assumed an extension wasn't coming.
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Do we know he wasn’t offered? Because it sounds like he always planned that this could be his last year. Maybe that’s why there was no extension, because Snitker wanted to wait until the end of the season to decide if he wanted to return.

The simplest answer is often the correct one. If Snitker was just going to accept a graceful “termination”, why wouldn’t have used this story in the middle of the season so he could get a send off if he wanted it? Instead, we’re suggesting that AA insidiously or ignorantly maneuvered it as to not allow him that. Or am I misunderstanding?
 
CyYoung31 said:
Do we know he wasn’t offered? Because it sounds like he always planned that this could be his last year. Maybe that’s why there was no extension, because Snitker wanted to wait until the end of the season to decide if he wanted to return.

The simplest answer is often the correct one. If Snitker was just going to accept a graceful “termination”, why wouldn’t have used this story in the middle of the season so he could get a send off if he wanted it? Instead, we’re suggesting that AA insidiously or ignorantly maneuvered it as to not allow him that. Or am I misunderstanding?
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Lex parsimoniae. And I agree—no reason to impute insidious machinations when there’s no actual evidence of anything untoward.
 
or we could debate what an alternative reality would look like if AA chose to performatively fire a guy who didn't deserve to be fired.
 
CyYoung31 said:
Do we know he wasn’t offered? Because it sounds like he always planned that this could be his last year. Maybe that’s why there was no extension, because Snitker wanted to wait until the end of the season to decide if he wanted to return.

The simplest answer is often the correct one. If Snitker was just going to accept a graceful “termination”, why wouldn’t have used this story in the middle of the season so he could get a send off if he wanted it? Instead, we’re suggesting that AA insidiously or ignorantly maneuvered it as to not allow him that. Or am I misunderstanding?
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From Snit's own words they never approached him. He also has repeatedly said he wasn't sure if he would manage pay l past this season, but he felt like he still could.

I'm saying that AA likely didn't give Snit much of an option. They didn't approach him with an extension. It was the final year of his contract. AA certainly wasn't giving him a ringing endorsement on coming back. Very non-committal to his future publicly.
 
Carp said:
From Snit's own words they never approached him. He also has repeatedly said he wasn't sure if he would manage pay l past this season, but he felt like he still could.

I'm saying that AA likely didn't give Snit much of an option. They didn't approach him with an extension. It was the final year of his contract. AA certainly wasn't giving him a ringing endorsement on coming back. Very non-committal to his future publicly.
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Source? Because all I can find is this from 2024: https://sportsnaut.com/mlb/atlanta-braves-manager-retiring-2025/

Which backs up that he always planned to potentially retire after this year.
 
UNCBlue012 said:
I think he was nearly a lock for Texas, but things are going to change for candidates with Atlanta being on the board. This is a crazy good opportunity with an established team.

It's also important to add that this team has an incredible culture. Everyone talks about it. People want to be here.
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Even you want to be here
 
I won't even read the article by shanks, but isn't he sorta saying what some are here - snit was forced out? Personally I love it when a beat writer doesn't just say what the team wants but questions them. And to be clear, if AA forced snit out, I like AA more than I have in a long time.
 
I think we all know Snit knew it was time for everybody involved. The Braves hadn't extended him and the media and a lot of fans had been on him too. He needs to retire so he can actually enjoy it. It was time.
 
the situation doesn't seem all that difficult to understand? it's seems pretty clear that:

a) both parties liked each other on a personal level

b) neither party wanted a public falling out over snit's retirement

both of the above can be true while AA knows snitker has to go and snitker isn't sure he's ready to retire. in that case if you're AA you send as many signals as you can without coming out and saying it, and hope snit decides to retire on his own, which seems to be what happened.
 
msstate7 said:
I won't even read the article by shanks, but isn't he sorta saying what some are here - snit was forced out? Personally I love it when a beat writer doesn't just say what the team wants but questions them. And to be clear, if AA forced snit out, I like AA more than I have in a long time.
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Same here. The jockocracy doesn't enjoy valid criticism. Whether Shanks' criticism is backed up by solid sources is a legitimate question, but beat writers have become supplicants to the company line and it really sucks. I was actually surprised when Bowman took some harsh swings at the Braves mid-season, but he must have told he would no longer have access to the leftovers on the post-game food table and he went back to duckies and bunnies. Shanks has kind of become the Caucasian Terence Moore. Certainly coming from a different set of tenets than Moore, but willing to take some shots.
 
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