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Nick Markakis (4 years), Dian Toscano (5 years), Jason Grilli (2 years), Jim Johnson (1 year), Shelby Miller (4 years), A. J. Pierzynski (1 year), Tyrell Jenkins (6 years) (now our #11 prospect according to MLB Pipeline), Max Fried (6 years) (now our #6 prospect according to MLB Pipeline), Jace Peterson (6 years) (reportedly being given a chance to win the 2B job in camp), Dustin Peterson (6 years) (now our #18 prospect according to MLB Pipeline), Mallex Smith (6 years) (now our #17 prospect according to MLB Pipeline), Aaron Kurcz (6 years), Arodys Vizcaino (6 years) (now our #16 prospect according to MLB Pipeline), Manny Banuelos (6 years) (now our #12 prospect according to MLB Pipeline), Josh Outman (2 years) (makes Avilan expendable IF they were being offered a decent return), Ricardo Sanchez (6 years) (now our #10 prospect according to MLB Pipeline), Mike Foltyniewicz (6 years) (now our #3 prospect according to MLB Pipeline), Rio Ruiz (6 years) (now our #7 prospect according to MLB Pipeline), Andrew Thurman (6 years) (now our #21 prospect according to MLB Pipeline), Jose Briceno (6 years) (now our #22 prospect according to MLB Pipeline), Trevor Cahill (3 years), Cameron Maybin (3 years), Matt Wisler (6 years) (now our #2 prospect according to MLB Pipeline), and Jordan Paroubeck (6 years) (now our #24 prospect according to MLB Pipeline). Plus $830,000 to spend on International signings (from Cubs) - some of which used to sign SS Isranel Wilson (5 tool projection), OF Leudys Baez, RHP Jhoniel Sepulveda, and SS Alex Aquino (trained with Robinson Cano's Dad). Plus 2015 draft picks #41 (Padres' Competitive Balance Round A - slot value of $1,506,400) and #75 (Diamondbacks' Competitive Balance Round B - slot value of $814,300).

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Jason Heyward (1 year), Justin Upton (1 year), Jordan Walden (2 years), David Carpenter (3 years), Evan Gattis (4 years), Anthony Varvaro (4 years), Tommy La Stella (5 years), Chasen Shreve (5 years), Kyle Kubitza (6 years), Nate Hyatt (6 years), and James Hoyt (6 years), David Hale (5 years). Josh Elander (6 years), Craig Kimbrel (4 years), and Melvin Upton (3 years).
 
Metaphysicist said:
Just listing years of control is incredibly misleading. The Braves could have traded for thethe and "won" in terms of "years of control." What matters is talent.

4 years of Shelby Miller is awesome, but 6 years of a blah "prospect" like Dustin Peterson is worth a bag of paper towels.
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thethe might be more interesting to watch.
 
Depressing. I might not watch even one game next year. Hard to understand how we won the east not that long ago...........and now certain cellar dwellers.
 
I LOVE these trades. Now when the Braves lose all the time this coming season, everyone will know why and have no false expectations!!

Or, we can just wait until the games actually start to predict how the team is going to do.....
 
JJ Cooper ‏@jjcoop36 41m41 minutes ago

Braves farm system has gotten a lot better after these deals. Needed to as the homegrown talent was really, really thin.
 
mossy said:
Depressing. I might not watch even one game next year. Hard to understand how we won the east not that long ago...........and now certain cellar dwellers.
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I sure as hell am not paying over 200 bucks for extra innings to watch this product
 
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JJ Cooper ‏@jjcoop36 41m41 minutes ago

Braves farm system has gotten a lot better after these deals. Needed to as the homegrown talent was really, really thin.
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BA had us ranked as one of the worst farm systems in the whole league. I would certainly hope we improved on that after dealing the guys we've dealt.
 
Looks like we should all watch the minor leagues since that is the current focus. Let years of CK, FF, simmons go.
 
Metaphysicist said:
Just listing years of control is incredibly misleading. The Braves could have traded for thethe and "won" in terms of "years of control." What matters is talent.

4 years of Shelby Miller is awesome, but 6 years of a blah "prospect" like Dustin Peterson is worth a bag of paper towels.
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Fair point but safe to say we can't judge Dustin Peterson at this point. He's young with talent and raw power. Time will tell what he becomes.
 
Everyone keeps talking about how these two deals have made us so much better on the farm. But we are now even more screwed long term with outfield depth it seems. Why would we not dangle guys like Kimbrel and Minor to try to build that part up?
 
bravesnumberone said:
Everyone keeps talking about how these two deals have made us so much better on the farm. But we are now even more screwed long term with outfield depth it seems. Why would we not dangle guys like Kimbrel and Minor to try to build that part up?
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My guess is that the team is petrified of alienating the fanbase.
 
bravesnumberone said:
Everyone keeps talking about how these two deals have made us so much better on the farm. But we are now even more screwed long term with outfield depth it seems. Why would we not dangle guys like Kimbrel and Minor to try to build that part up?
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For Kimbrel, no one is paying top dollar in a trade for a closer right now. Its much better to wait until mid season when trading is the only option teams have. Kimbrel isnt a rental so teams should be less hesitant to fork over top prospects for him.

For Minor, I think its best to bet on him and hope he returns to what he was from mid 2012 thru 2013. If he does his value sky rockets. If not I think his value only drops slightly.
 
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