Some Red State/Blue State Indicia

nsacpi said:
West Virginia leads the country in home schoolin'. Just sayin'.
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I would wager the % of West VA home schooled kids who understand that Hamas is a terror organization and and Palestine in general represents the opposite views of human rights liberals claim to love is substantially higher than the kids currently learning from the academics in our elite institutions in the northeast
 
sturg33 said:
What is so frustrating is that republican policies built a juggernaut in california and it only took libs 20 year or so to turn it into a ****hole
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The whole north's prosperity was created by people who think like you and me than BL.

That prosperity is fading fast due to leftist idiocy.
 
Garmel said:
WV was poor even when it was a blue state.
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True. It was badly governed then too. Very low levels of investment in things like education and public health. When it was a blue state. And now as a red state.

I find it interesting that the immigrant population as a proportion of the overall population is smallest in West Virgina. Even smaller than Mississippi.

Otoh it is a place of great beauty. A nice cheap place to retire. The people are nice. Just not a great place if you are a baller looking for economic opportunity and a good education for your children.
 
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nsacpi said:
True. It was badly governed then too. Very low levels of investment in things like education and public health. When it was a blue state. And now as a red state.

I find it interesting that the immigrant population as a proportion of the overall population is smallest in West Virgina. Even smaller than Mississippi.

Otoh it is a place of great beauty. A nice cheap place to retire. The people are nice.
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Its economy didn't diversify with coal being their one trick pony.
 
Garmel said:
Its economy didn't diversify with coal being their one trick pony.
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Coal has something to do with it. As does culture. And piss poor public policy. It is hard to disentangle. John Nash is from West Virgina. I give them that. One of the most brilliant mathematicians this country has produced.
 
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Tapate50 said:
Bet he thought Covid came from a dude eating a bat
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he was dead by then

but he did believe for a time that he had been appointed Emperor of Antartica by space aliens

academics are little crazy...sometimes more than a little...bat**** crazy if i may coin a phrase
 
nsacpi said:
Coal has something to do with it. As does culture. And piss poor public policy. It is hard to disentangle. John Nash is from West Virgina. I give them that. One of the most brilliant mathematicians this country has produced.
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A diversified industrial base brings prosperity that gives you the tax and infrastructure to build the better schools, hospitals, etc.

The old South with their agricultural base didn't create prosperity except for a very few.
 
Garmel said:
A diversified industrial base brings prosperity that gives you the tax and infrastructure to build the better schools, hospitals, etc.

The old South with their agricultural base didn't create prosperity except for a very few.
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The southern states steadily closed the economic gap (and other gaps such as life expectancy) with northern states for many decades after the civil war. But in the past few decades many of those gaps have widened. I don't think there is any doubt much of it has to do with different policies at the state and local level regarding things like education and public health. Blue states are far from perfect and can learn from others. But they've done better in terms of educating their populations and keeping them healthy. Many of those policies are viewed as unpalatable by those with a libertarian point of view. But they work. And cost money. Different places will make different judgements between the value of liberty and low taxes, and the value of more life and better economic outcomes.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32748998/

Studies that look at similar issues but across countries rather than states have reached the same conclusions.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31067117/
 
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zitothebrave said:
https://www.beaconjournal.com/story...ost-pressures-costco-to-drop-dei/77998964007/

"Ohio Attorney General Dave Yost joined 18 other Republican state attorneys general to push Costco Wholesale to abandon its diversity, equity, and inclusion policies, citing concerns about discrimination and legal risks."

Government getting in the way of how a business runs. I'll love to see how sturg jumps through hoops here.
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I'm glad the government encourages private business to not discriminate. But I support every businesses right to discriminate if they choose
 
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#4 in Education Freedom

#49 in Education

Every state will have its own priorities, reflecting the values of its people.
 
acesfull86 said:
Didn’t they pass the Parental Choice Tax Credit Act like a year ago?
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They sure did.

And a few years ago, I believe Oklahoma even passed some increases in teacher pay.

They are moving in a promising direction.

But they are still about the worst state in the country to educate a child.

How we look at the overall picture shouldn't be colored by the expectations we have. Our expectations shouldn't be awfully low just because a state has been awful for a very long time.
 
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nsacpi said:
Oklahoma’s government spending on higher education dropped by 26% since 2009, according to the Oklahoma State Regents for Higher Education. The state from 2012 to 2017 had the most drastic cuts in higher-education spending anywhere in the U.S.
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and of course there is this

if they restored some of those cuts that's great

I've known a few people who have taught at various levels in Oklahoma. It is not a great experience.

but #4 in Education Freedom...dang that's something to hang your hat on
 
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acesfull86 said:
Didn’t they pass the Parental Choice Tax Credit Act like a year ago?
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problem is, we have an academic

our academic is uncurious, not interesting, and goes with whatever the consensus is. he might be wearing two masks tonight... but probably not, bc academia gave him permission not to

ive asked - but he refuses to answer - does intelligence mean a college degree or believing covid came from a bat (there is a 1:1 correlation there)
 
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