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Undeniable. But sturg would rather Harris win and then never get to vote again!
 
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He supports abortion till birth!!!

Imagine thinning the abortion fight wouldn’t be over decades after dobbs.
 
ok you're getting closer to reality

how much leftism should I accept? "being not as bad as Kamala" isn't enough for me.

Do you have any limits for him?

Not sure what the limits are since the alternative is Marxism. No, Trump isn't a socialist.

That's something you need to think about before voting for a guy not even running like Paul.

Yes, RDS is better since he's smarter and more conservative but he didn't win the primary.
 
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This statement has to be made because idiots like you push lies about what Trump said. That’s the real shame 2 months before an essential election. But hey - you can bitch like a child all day and if we ever live in a world where Trump loses you can see what happens to abortion in the county.

how did I "push lies" about what he said, when I posted verbatim his exact words.

Please, oh maga translator, translate this for me. the below exchange was specifically about amendment 4 in FL

Trump: "well I think the 6 weeks is too short. it has to be more time. and I told them that I want more weeks...

Reporter: "you will be voting in favor of the amendment?"

Trump: "I am gonna be voting that we need more than 6 weeks."
 
Well your “pro-life” stance is not about life it’s about you don’t like abortion. You can’t say you’re this principled pro life person and not actually care about life outside of the womb. Or you could be someone who lives in reality and be against abortion but understand the world around you doesn’t think that way and pushing what you do results in more abortikn.

First in foremost I believe our God-given right to life must be protected at all costs. I am very against murdering innocent people, specifically the most defenseless and innocent of us all

And my rejection of your useless, failed, government nanny-state policies to protect us all from cradle to grave is entirely consistent with my care for life. I am against ineffective policies that keep people in poverty and keep people stupid. That's why I'm supportive of free markets, which has been the number one mechanism of lifting people out of poverty and and creating enormous abundance mores than any other mechanism in human history. if there is a better system out there, please point me to it. But social security and the department of education and all the other failed government policies ain't it

Ever going to address how abortion measures fair in conservative states? Of course not. How about how the country is basically 60-65 pro abortion? Do these things matter when crafting strategy or will you just continue to be immovable and lose ground at all times?

I need you to understand that I do not change my belief system based on popularity like you do. For example, I do not believe slavery was worth accepting because it was popular. I don't believe the Jews should have been massacred because it was popular. I don't believe democrats have better policies than Republicans simply because they win the popular vote.

Make sense?
 
You call everything socialism. I’ve been about helping Americans from day 1 by booting illegals draining the system.

It all goes back to your “pro-life” stance fraudulent as you’re willing to let American children starve just because their parents aren’t successful.

you've fully adopted 57/goldy's policies and talking points

"you're not pro life because you don't think the government should financially provide for everyone!"

yawn - so boring. so retarded. but so socialist

Trump and you are to the left of 2010 Obama. You're much closer to Kamala's economic policies than you are to smart ones. Is what it is
 
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Undeniable. But sturg would rather Harris win and then never get to vote again!

I think mass immigration is very bad but I do not think it is more important than the slaughtering of ~750K children per year in this country

so sad that you do
 
And how did it become an issue to debated again?

this issue became debated again because a Republican happened to be President when 3 super court justices left the court, and that republican appointed justices that literally any republican could appoint, and frankly, he messed up pretty bad on two of them

But I applaud the 5 justices who correctly made this is a debated issue again
 
If you’re pro life there is only one option here. The other is a reign of terror that will lead to unimaginable amounts of abortion

I'm pro life and the person supposedly elected to represent my values just single handedly helped a **** ton of babies be slaughtered

results on the field, and all that jazz
 
Not sure what the limits are since the alternative is Marxism. No, Trump isn't a socialist.

That's something you need to think about before voting for a guy not even running like Paul.

Yes, RDS is better since he's smarter and more conservative but he didn't win the primary.

right now it appears my options are:

a committed marxist who would be 100% opposed by a conservative party

a commited socialist who would fundamentally alter the conservative party to the socialist party for the following decades

both these options suck
 
“If you aren’t willing to stand up for unborn babies in this country, then what else are you going to cut and run on when the going gets tough? If you're not willing to stand on that issue, I think it indicates your character is weak, and you don't have the fortitude to actually serve the interests of our voters."

Well said, JD Vance! (before the god dictated otherwise, though)
 
oooh I have a feeling Trump sycophant catturd has a must different stance today! something something paper values

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Sturg, you have to realize a nation wide ban on abortions is never going to happen right? More than 60% of voters believe abortion should be legal in some fashion or another.. Overturning Roe v Wade was the best pro-lifers could hope for, as it makes it a states issue now.
 
Sturg, you have to realize a nation wide ban on abortions is never going to happen right? More than 60% of voters believe abortion should be legal. Overturning Roe v Wade was the best pro-lifers could hope for, as it makes it a states issue now.

I do realize that.

Trump just fought to make more abortion happen in Florida - his home state.
 
“If you aren’t willing to stand up for unborn babies in this country, then what else are you going to cut and run on when the going gets tough? If you're not willing to stand on that issue, I think it indicates your character is weak, and you don't have the fortitude to actually serve the interests of our voters."

Well said, JD Vance! (before the god dictated otherwise, though)
Feels strangely dated. Like something from an archeological dig.
 
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